Using phone while driving
Discussion
Bohemianesque said:
pb1695 said:
There were over 200,000 reported casualties on the roads due to accidents in 2011. 1901 people died, and 24,000 were seriously injured.
It is carnage out there. Not all accidents are caused by people talking and texting, but all have a cause, and normally a lack of concentration and anticipation will be at the route of it.
If driving was so easy, nearly 550 crashes would be avoided every day, and 5 people each day would not be dead.
Driving is a privilege, it requires skill, concentration and anticipation. When you are in control of a car, you are not just responsible for yourself, but for every other road user and pedestrian. When driving a car, you are in charge of a very heavy, very fast, deadly weapon. That should be understood and respected.
Talking on phone, whilst driving, is a distraction as you are concentrating on the conversation and not what is going on around you as your primary focus. The fact that most of the time,for most people, nothing goes wrong and you still live does not reduce the need to concentrate - as the 5 people that will die today will confirm.
Well said pb.It is carnage out there. Not all accidents are caused by people talking and texting, but all have a cause, and normally a lack of concentration and anticipation will be at the route of it.
If driving was so easy, nearly 550 crashes would be avoided every day, and 5 people each day would not be dead.
Driving is a privilege, it requires skill, concentration and anticipation. When you are in control of a car, you are not just responsible for yourself, but for every other road user and pedestrian. When driving a car, you are in charge of a very heavy, very fast, deadly weapon. That should be understood and respected.
Talking on phone, whilst driving, is a distraction as you are concentrating on the conversation and not what is going on around you as your primary focus. The fact that most of the time,for most people, nothing goes wrong and you still live does not reduce the need to concentrate - as the 5 people that will die today will confirm.
I cover many miles with my work; a handful of times in the last year alone, I've nearly been taken out by being hit head.......at the last minute the vehicle drifting into my lane has swerved back......virtually every time the other driver, I could see, was distracted by being on the phone (ear to shoulder....or hand to ear).....don't try telling me all of them weren't t@@ts....
It's like the classic line from the careless driver who never realises he is the cause of things - "so many people crash around me when I'm driving".
Dixie68 said:
A quick question for those that think using a phone whilst driving isn't dangerous: why do you think that it's now illegal? Do you think that someone woke up one morning and thought, "I know, I'll ban using handheld phones today, that should be a laugh"?
Unfortunately you will find the hard core who think they have superhuman skills to drive safely and hold a phone to their ear, and who have been doing it for years and have never crashed or died.Some still have their head buried in the sand, I wonder if they would consider driving without a seat belt on, coz they did it for yonks and never crashed or died
fjord said:
m3jappa said:
If you can't drive and hold a phone to your ear you should t be f
king driving IMO. It's incredible how people are conditioned to truly believe its very dangerous.
I do agree that some who do it are lethal though so I suppose we all get treated the same.
It's the texting or looki g at Facebook though that should be targeted, they are dangerous!
ok bro.king driving IMO. It's incredible how people are conditioned to truly believe its very dangerous. I do agree that some who do it are lethal though so I suppose we all get treated the same.
It's the texting or looki g at Facebook though that should be targeted, they are dangerous!
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Dusty964 said:
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The way some folk are getting so outraged and throwing insults around, you would think that driving is one of the single greatest feats mankind has ever mastered. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I put in a key, press a button to start the engine, pull a lever to engage 'D', I then use the large round thing in front of me to turn (this can be done very easily with one hand) and I use one of my feet to either go faster, or if I choose, stop completely. Granted, the situation may be more complex for those of you that pilot a traction engine, but the reality is, it's not that hard to do.
I adore the professional outrage mob on here, each more stunned than than the last.
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Huge omission in that posting. EYES!The way some folk are getting so outraged and throwing insults around, you would think that driving is one of the single greatest feats mankind has ever mastered. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I put in a key, press a button to start the engine, pull a lever to engage 'D', I then use the large round thing in front of me to turn (this can be done very easily with one hand) and I use one of my feet to either go faster, or if I choose, stop completely. Granted, the situation may be more complex for those of you that pilot a traction engine, but the reality is, it's not that hard to do.
I adore the professional outrage mob on here, each more stunned than than the last.
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Some folks may get outraged, others may get dead or seriously and permanently maimed.
Many accident report forms show the same old, same old ...
Accident Report Forms said:
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I didn't see the other vehicle..
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Which is an excuse for saying I did not take proper observation!I didn't see the other vehicle..
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In the distant past, I worked in the Claims Department of the then largest UK Motor Insurers. I wonder if that same old, same old excuse is still widespread now.
In any form, mobile phones are a distarction and those cause accidents. Failure to appreciate that basic point is failure.
Ring ring ...
Kerrrrrunch!
MGJohn said:
Dusty964 said:
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The way some folk are getting so outraged and throwing insults around, you would think that driving is one of the single greatest feats mankind has ever mastered. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I put in a key, press a button to start the engine, pull a lever to engage 'D', I then use the large round thing in front of me to turn (this can be done very easily with one hand) and I use one of my feet to either go faster, or if I choose, stop completely. Granted, the situation may be more complex for those of you that pilot a traction engine, but the reality is, it's not that hard to do.
I adore the professional outrage mob on here, each more stunned than than the last.
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Huge omission in that posting. EYES!The way some folk are getting so outraged and throwing insults around, you would think that driving is one of the single greatest feats mankind has ever mastered. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I put in a key, press a button to start the engine, pull a lever to engage 'D', I then use the large round thing in front of me to turn (this can be done very easily with one hand) and I use one of my feet to either go faster, or if I choose, stop completely. Granted, the situation may be more complex for those of you that pilot a traction engine, but the reality is, it's not that hard to do.
I adore the professional outrage mob on here, each more stunned than than the last.
.
Some folks may get outraged, others may get dead or seriously and permanently maimed.
Many accident report forms show the same old, same old ...
Accident Report Forms said:
.
I didn't see the other vehicle..
.
Which is an excuse for saying I did not take proper observation!I didn't see the other vehicle..
.
In the distant past, I worked in the Claims Department of the then largest UK Motor Insurers. I wonder if that same old, same old excuse is still widespread now.
In any form, mobile phones are a distarction and those cause accidents. Failure to appreciate that basic point is failure.
Ring ring ...
Kerrrrrunch!
Dixie68 said:
A quick question for those that think using a phone whilst driving isn't dangerous: why do you think that it's now illegal? Do you think that someone woke up one morning and thought, "I know, I'll ban using handheld phones today, that should be a laugh"?
It's not illegal here though. What utter bks.
Before it was illegal, I used to drive on the phone all the time. Never had an accident, or came close. It only gets tricky in a manual, when trying to change gear and move the steering wheel. But common sense will ensure you put the phone down for a second if necessary, and on a motorway, at a constant speed, it really isn't hard to talk whilst watching the road.
Texting is different. It is impossible to concentrate on sending a text and driving at the same time.
ks.Before it was illegal, I used to drive on the phone all the time. Never had an accident, or came close. It only gets tricky in a manual, when trying to change gear and move the steering wheel. But common sense will ensure you put the phone down for a second if necessary, and on a motorway, at a constant speed, it really isn't hard to talk whilst watching the road.
Texting is different. It is impossible to concentrate on sending a text and driving at the same time.
Dixie68 said:
A quick question for those that think using a phone whilst driving isn't dangerous: why do you think that it's now illegal? Do you think that someone woke up one morning and thought, "I know, I'll ban using handheld phones today, that should be a laugh"?
Short answer?Too many f
king retards around.Applicable to many laws.
Dominicc01 said:
What utter bks.
Before it was illegal, I used to drive on the phone all the time. Never had an accident, or came close.
And how many did have accidents!ks.Before it was illegal, I used to drive on the phone all the time. Never had an accident, or came close.
Ever considered its the likes of those who did drive and phone and cause accidents cause this legislation to come about.
As my mate would say when others challenged change "We used to have kids in coalmines"
You are excused of course if your a member of the driving gods
Slow said:
I think texting is dangerous, just chating isnt bad imo.
They seem to cope with driving while on phones in america.
There is certainly cell-phone-while-driving stupidity here, too. I see it every day. Me? I use an ancient model Motorola bt. Works fine. My wife's car has built-in bt tech. I don't like or use it.They seem to cope with driving while on phones in america.
Hasn't the change in the law made some handsfree solutions 'less legal' than they were before?
I know someone who was stopped and cautioned for using his headset - the copper's argument was that he was 'touching his ear' and that meant he wasn't concentrating.
I know someone who was stopped for using the car's touchscreen to make a call too - the new law is more specific than the old 'using a phone' one, you don't actually have to make a call, just holding/using a phone-like-device is enough!?
I know someone who was stopped and cautioned for using his headset - the copper's argument was that he was 'touching his ear' and that meant he wasn't concentrating.
I know someone who was stopped for using the car's touchscreen to make a call too - the new law is more specific than the old 'using a phone' one, you don't actually have to make a call, just holding/using a phone-like-device is enough!?
Vipers said:
come about.
As my mate would say when others challenged change "We used to have kids in coalmines"
Or as I say about silly laws, "we used to hang people for more than 220 peculiar reasons under The Bloody Code, children as young as 7 years included". As my mate would say when others challenged change "We used to have kids in coalmines"
A law is not always right or thought out properly.
Finlandia said:
Vipers said:
come about.
As my mate would say when others challenged change "We used to have kids in coalmines"
Or as I say about silly laws, "we used to hang people for more than 220 peculiar reasons under The Bloody Code, children as young as 7 years included". As my mate would say when others challenged change "We used to have kids in coalmines"
A law is not always right or thought out properly.
Vipers said:
Your absolutely right. Thank god they got phones and driving right.
But they didn't get it right.Studies show that using hands-free is just as attention distracting as holding the phone in your hand, and being parked by the side of the road with the engine on while making a handheld call is in no way distracting, yet it carries a penalty.
Marginally better than hanging someone for writing a threatening letter, as stated in The Bloody Code, but very far from ideal or well thought out.
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