Renewing photo licence

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Supernova190188

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903 posts

140 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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Just a thought, I passed my test 8 years ago, but if I renewed my licence now then as you have to renew every 10 years would I have to renew again in 2 years, or would it be another 10 years until it would be needed to be renewed again?
Cheers.

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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Supernova190188 said:
Just a thought, I passed my test 8 years ago, but if I renewed my licence now then as you have to renew every 10 years would I have to renew again in 2 years, or would it be another 10 years until it would be needed to be renewed again?
Cheers.
Why do you need it renewing now?

Supernova190188

Original Poster:

903 posts

140 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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Well, I could do with updating address and also photo really as don't look anything like I did 8 years ago.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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I think you will need to do it again in 2 years time. Hopefully someone who has moved can confirm though.

OH lost hers, phoned up and got a replacement, 6 months later the renewal came through! Frustrating having to pay twice but maybe that's because no details changed so they don't consider it a renewal like moving?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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change of address is free..

renewals will cost you.

but if you have a current passport, you can save yourself the cost of some very expensive photos and they will just digitally use the one from your passport.

( did both mine and the OH's last wkend )

tba

239 posts

146 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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updating the address doesn't change the renewal date for the card.

Supernova190188

Original Poster:

903 posts

140 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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I know updating address won't affect it, but if you updated the photo too then would you have to renew licence yet again in 2 years?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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Mine was actually due to be renewed over 5 years ago... why are you in such a rush?

Supernova190188

Original Poster:

903 posts

140 months

Monday 6th May 2013
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I'm not really, was just a query.

tubbystu

3,846 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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SystemParanoia said:
Mine was actually due to be renewed over 5 years ago... why are you in such a rush?
Which presumably makes your licence invalid confused

R0G

4,987 posts

156 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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You can update the photo at the same time as changing your address but it will mean losing 2 years off your current photo entitlement - the new photo will run for 10 years

If you have certain endorsements over 4 years old then they will be removed at the same time

CraigyMc

16,463 posts

237 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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tubbystu said:
SystemParanoia said:
Mine was actually due to be renewed over 5 years ago... why are you in such a rush?
Which presumably makes your licence invalid confused
This would be interesting if you ever had to convince a court you didn't know it was invalid..?

C

SS2.

14,467 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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tubbystu said:
Which presumably makes your licence invalid confused
An expired photocard has no bearing on entitlement to drive.



mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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tubbystu said:
SystemParanoia said:
Mine was actually due to be renewed over 5 years ago... why are you in such a rush?
Which presumably makes your licence invalid confused
yes it is invalid .

SS2.

14,467 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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mph1977 said:
yes it is invalid .
Use of the term 'invalid' might lead people to think that an expired photocard invalidates their entire licence, voids their insurance, deprives them of their entitlement to drive, etc etc.

It doesn't.

mph1977

12,467 posts

169 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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SS2. said:
mph1977 said:
yes it is invalid .
Use of the term 'invalid' might lead people to think that an expired photocard invalidates their entire licence, voids their insurance, deprives them of their entitlement to drive, etc etc.

It doesn't.
They do not have a valid driving licence , they have committed a criminal offence which can result in a large fine on conviction - so it is none trivial. although in some circumstances it won't result in driving otherwise ... ( group 2 driver under 45 , group 1 only driver under 70)

it will also cause issues with driving for work, especially if an employer relies on 'manual' methods of checking - it would be interesting to see what result one of the licence checking services that have access the Driver database would return.

I have known job applications discontinued for out of date photocard / wrong address - admittedly the potential employer does look for any reason to get numbers down to a manageable level


SS2.

14,467 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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mph1977 said:
They do not have a valid driving licence , they have committed a criminal offence which can result in a large fine on conviction - so it is none trivial. although in some circumstances it won't result in driving otherwise... ( group 2 driver under 45 , group 1 only driver under 70)..
I didn't say it was trivial - I said it had no bearing on entitlement to drive, nor should it result in a conviction for 'driving otherwise than in accordance with a licence'.

The offence carries a fine with a statutory maximum of £1,000 and is in respect of failing to surrender a photocard within 10 years of issue.

mph1977 said:
..it will also cause issues with driving for work..
'Might' would be a better term, rather than the all-encompassing 'will'..

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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I had not a single problem in 5years.

Only did it cause i on the site anyway doing the OH's

But ive been judged a hardened criminal now so.. meh

yellowjack

17,082 posts

167 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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Supernova190188 said:
Just a thought, I passed my test 8 years ago, but if I renewed my licence now then as you have to renew every 10 years would I have to renew again in 2 years, or would it be another 10 years until it would be needed to be renewed again?
Cheers.
To put this thread back on track...

...if you renew now, the photocard will be valid for ten years from the date of issue.

You can renew more frequently if you wish, for example, if you are vain, have a facelift, and don't like the photo of the 'old' you on your license wink

Every time you renew, you must pay the fee in effect at the time.

The easy way to do it is to go to a larger Post Office. They will take a digital photo of you, take the fee, and return your old card to DVLA. There is no risk that the photo will be rejected as the staff on the counter will compare your photo to the relevant rules governing 'true likeness' etc. Some time later the new card will arrive in the post. Job's a fish.

GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Tuesday 7th May 2013
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poing said:
I think you will need to do it again in 2 years time. Hopefully someone who has moved can confirm though.

OH lost hers, phoned up and got a replacement, 6 months later the renewal came through! Frustrating having to pay twice but maybe that's because no details changed so they don't consider it a renewal like moving?
I dont think that this is correct. I believe that if you supply a new photo and the fee (£10 typo: its £20) then youll receive a new ten year licence.

This is certainly what Im about to do as I am changing something else on my licence (which has three years remaining).

Edited by GC8 on Tuesday 7th May 16:03