RE: Audi TT Sport: Spotted
Discussion
Bit pricey!!!
There was a chap on here who bought one a few months ago for circa £4k
I do get bored of the people constantly being critical of the handling and can only offer a E46 M3 as an alternative when that was an extra £10k+ when new and running costs aren't quite as kind as the TTs.
Evo weren't so critical and usually Evo is the first mag that gets referenced around here for "proper" tests...
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/6...
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/6...
There was a chap on here who bought one a few months ago for circa £4k
I do get bored of the people constantly being critical of the handling and can only offer a E46 M3 as an alternative when that was an extra £10k+ when new and running costs aren't quite as kind as the TTs.
Evo weren't so critical and usually Evo is the first mag that gets referenced around here for "proper" tests...
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/6...
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evolongtermtests/6...
RenesisEvo said:
usualdog said:
Escort Si-130 said:
One for a start as another poster mentioned, they are hideous, it is cramped as f
k inside there, not recommended imo for anyone 6ft and over unless you want to drive like a contortionist.
This post nails it. Regardless of the car's merits or demerits, if you're 6ft you won't fit. End of. And it's no better in the facelifted version.
k inside there, not recommended imo for anyone 6ft and over unless you want to drive like a contortionist.This post nails it. Regardless of the car's merits or demerits, if you're 6ft you won't fit. End of. And it's no better in the facelifted version.
mike-r said:
The TT? I'm 6' 2" and it's one of the crampiest pokey little cars I've ever been in. The dash and bonnet are too short, it feels like everything is in your face. It's like Audi forgot that people would be driving the car.
I thought the opposite. We had a roadster convertible 225, and it's the most spacious interior in the front of any car we've owned 2 seater wise. I felt the dash was quite deep and the bonnet, you couldn't judge the front. The missus even parked it on a kerb and cracked the bumper in two, when 'tired'. It's fast and lovely to look at, but I felt that in the TT you weren't part of the driving experience, you were rather detached from it. Maybe, I'm just used to more rawer sports cars, but just couldn't get used to it and go for a drive and it bring a smile to your face through it rewarding feedback.Anyone buying a TT today for its driving experience is bonkers. Undoubtedly, the MK2 (and many other cars) will be far superior. However, the MK1 is really amenable to modifications so it can be made to suit whoever buys it but at a cost.
Does that QS deserve to be advertised at 9K? Most likely not. TT prices have plummeted and it needs to be really special to command that price. If I were to buy another one then a V6 rather than the QS.
EDIT: spell checked. hopefully better now.
Does that QS deserve to be advertised at 9K? Most likely not. TT prices have plummeted and it needs to be really special to command that price. If I were to buy another one then a V6 rather than the QS.
EDIT: spell checked. hopefully better now.
Edited by hdrflow on Tuesday 7th May 20:23
I'm starting to like the way these 1st gen TTs look; I think the design has aged well. They still look very unique. However, that is still waaaay more money than I'd be willing to spend on one! At that money, I'd be looking at M-Coupes instead (I happen to like the styling of the "shoes".)
I bought one of these for the other half and it's a lot of fun. Turbo comes in much less lethargically than her old 225 which got nicked, and how many hairdresser's cars have Recaro Pole Positions and weight reduction?
Paid 8 1/2 a year ago. Still worth more or less the same, and is good for shopping or the Ring. OK it's not rear wheel drive and the traction control stays on (at least a little) all the time, but the handling is improved and the engine is great. And they do look pretty mean in the metal IMO.
Paid 8 1/2 a year ago. Still worth more or less the same, and is good for shopping or the Ring. OK it's not rear wheel drive and the traction control stays on (at least a little) all the time, but the handling is improved and the engine is great. And they do look pretty mean in the metal IMO.
Was expecting this to be a lightweight, but its booked at 1415kg dry, so well over a tonne and a half with a driver and some fuel. Works out at less than 180bhp per tonne, so only modestly sporty, really
Showing my ignorance now, but wasn't the TT essentially FWD until traction was compromised, at which point the rears would take up some drive?
Showing my ignorance now, but wasn't the TT essentially FWD until traction was compromised, at which point the rears would take up some drive?
Nigel_O said:
Showing my ignorance now, but wasn't the TT essentially FWD until traction was compromised, at which point the rears would take up some drive?
Yep. But Haldex can be upgraded. I see it as a nice GT car rather than a sports car. As everything it depends on expectations. I think a lot of people expect too much from it (in its standard guise).I've just helped a friend buy a fairly mint TT V6 for £5,100. For that kind of money it's a lot of car. All her friends on facebook adore it, and the V6 part was my work. 
Very well looked after by it's previous owner, time will tell if the 90k odd miles are well worn or not. Seems like it at the moment.
I wouldn't have bought one, but still thought there was a lot to like when I test drove it. Engine was pretty nice, for starters.
Very well looked after by it's previous owner, time will tell if the 90k odd miles are well worn or not. Seems like it at the moment.
I wouldn't have bought one, but still thought there was a lot to like when I test drove it. Engine was pretty nice, for starters.
I ran one of these from 2006 until 2009, bought as a demo car from Huntingdon Audi with 5,000 miles on it and took it to somewhere near 40k.
Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
JTR32 said:
I ran one of these from 2006 until 2009, bought as a demo car from Huntingdon Audi with 5,000 miles on it and took it to somewhere near 40k.
Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
Reason? Logic? Expertise? That has no place here. Begone!!!Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
usualdog said:
Horses for courses I suppose but I'm 6ft and have to drive with the seat against the rear bench and still too close to the wheel.
Sounds like my old Megane coupe. (Only comparable in that it too was a coupe and very cramped) I was okay height wise but never got far enough away from the pedals and never got the steering wheel where I wanted it to be. The driver seat could go lower, its one saving grace, passengers was fixed height.
Most of my mates heads would be touching the roof.
At least TTs have a usable bootspace. Ever driven a MINI? Makes both cars seem like 7 series in terms of interior space.
Just noticed this on pheads homepage and knew i recognised the registration,,,,Several jobs been completed by myself at SP Autobahn on this exact vehicle and I can personally state that in my opinion you will struggle to find a better example, As an owner of a specialist garage business you very rarely put your neck on the line and recommend any of the vehicles you see on your ramp, this car in question though is different and anything but your average tt sport, in my opinion you get what you pay for and this car needs to be seen and driven to be appreciated.
Had one of the first batch of 400 to arrive in Sydney in 1999 - Denim Blue without rear spoiler.
Great car and at >6ft had no problems at all with interior space. It was also the 180 FWD model so lighter than the Quattro 225 and really flew in the back roads of NSW. Still miss it and confirm it had a sense of occasion every time I drove it. Sister still has her 2001 225 cabriolet (from new) and wont ever sell it.
Far more presence than the new version too - only downsides was handbrake (calipers) letting go after cooling - a well noted problem so always made sure it was in gear on any slope.
Great car and at >6ft had no problems at all with interior space. It was also the 180 FWD model so lighter than the Quattro 225 and really flew in the back roads of NSW. Still miss it and confirm it had a sense of occasion every time I drove it. Sister still has her 2001 225 cabriolet (from new) and wont ever sell it.
Far more presence than the new version too - only downsides was handbrake (calipers) letting go after cooling - a well noted problem so always made sure it was in gear on any slope.
JonathanLegard said:
JTR32 said:
I ran one of these from 2006 until 2009, bought as a demo car from Huntingdon Audi with 5,000 miles on it and took it to somewhere near 40k.
Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
Reason? Logic? Expertise? That has no place here. Begone!!!Some interesting and differing opinions to this car here, some of which entirely predictable.
My over riding memory of this car was of what a sense of occasion it gave every time I drove it. It looked great in Avus silver (much better than the red in my opinion) and the interior was superb, made so by the fixed back Recaro pole position seats. I had no problem fitting in and am 6'2. The 'cockpit' was designed as such so I can't understand comments of cramped- it was never meant to be spacious. The build and material quality were also of the highest order. Surely anyone who appreciates this would not be considering a 350z or S2000?
By the time I moved on, I had added some upgrades designed to improve the driving experience and on the whole they worked. Some of the most worthwhile were the Eibach coil overs, thicker ant roll bars ( front and rear but with a disproportionate increase at the rear so as to dial out some of the under steer), the short throw gear linkage and a firmer 'dog bone' mount (a drivetrain bushing). Oh and the obligatory 1.8T remap, I tried a few but settled on a Revo stage 2 map (although the larger bore down pipe associated with the stage 2 was perhaps a mistake in hindsight as it could never be made to fit cleanly, all to chase another 20 bhp).
Since that car I have owned a mk4 R32, E46 M3 and currently run a 335i. As for comparisons to the M3, the running costs are a whole different ball game so some people won't consider them on that basis alone, even if the purchase prices are now similar. Driving experience wise, the M3 has a far superior engine (as in way, way, way far superior!) and has more 'playful' handling for sure but on a dark rainy winters night, I would be in the TT every time.
Overall, the whole ownership package is up there. For anyone considering one I would say do it but don't dismiss those few choice upgrades (not all expensive, the Forge short throw gear kit was about £80 I think) as they do make a difference.
No mention of not enough power or tail out handling like the true expert driver's on here!
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