Remaking old cars ?
Discussion
Adidas remake old trainers, so why not old cars, ok, I know that there are all soprts of regulations but seeing the price old Escort shells go for, surely it must be remaking shells, is it possible, how much would people pay for a brand new Escort, 2 door Sierra, E30 M3, Escort Cosworth Integrale, Fiat 500, Capri, Air Cooled 911 shell ?
They do it with MGB's and they are worth a lot less than some of the other stuff I have mentioned. I appreciate the original manufacturers cant make then due to safety regulations but is there any reason why this cant be done, once you have a shell, mechanicals are fairly easy.
They do it with MGB's and they are worth a lot less than some of the other stuff I have mentioned. I appreciate the original manufacturers cant make then due to safety regulations but is there any reason why this cant be done, once you have a shell, mechanicals are fairly easy.
J4CKO said:
Adidas remake old trainers, so why not old cars, ok, I know that there are all soprts of regulations but seeing the price old Escort shells go for, surely it must be remaking shells, is it possible, how much would people pay for a brand new Escort, 2 door Sierra, E30 M3, Escort Cosworth Integrale, Fiat 500, Capri, Air Cooled 911 shell ?
They do it with MGB's and they are worth a lot less than some of the other stuff I have mentioned. I appreciate the original manufacturers cant make then due to safety regulations but is there any reason why this cant be done, once you have a shell, mechanicals are fairly easy.
Anything is possible if you have the money. Loads of companies out there doing similar things in very tiny numbers.They do it with MGB's and they are worth a lot less than some of the other stuff I have mentioned. I appreciate the original manufacturers cant make then due to safety regulations but is there any reason why this cant be done, once you have a shell, mechanicals are fairly easy.
So besides British motor heritage
http://www.bmh-ltd.com/bodyshells2.htm
any links to other companies that make old shells?
http://www.bmh-ltd.com/bodyshells2.htm
any links to other companies that make old shells?
SystemParanoia said:
I think the manufacturer would have to give their explicit permission, in writing, signed in blood and wrapped in a big fat wad of cash.
...just for starters.
I dont know how British motor heritage avoided the legal dogs tho with the mini and mg shells they do
They were founded as part of British Leyland. BMW sold BMH off when they owned Rover, presumably all the rights issues were very well clarified at that point. ...just for starters.
I dont know how British motor heritage avoided the legal dogs tho with the mini and mg shells they do
Mr2Mike said:
SystemParanoia said:
I dont know how British motor heritage avoided the legal dogs tho with the mini and mg shells they do
What legal dogs?but i would expect a visit from angry men in suits if i started making 100% accurate f458 bodyshells and mp412c shells that accept all the original components
No it doesn't. You'd still be in breach of the intellectual property rights of the original designer, or whoever owns those rights.
In most cases if a designer is employed by a company to do the design work, the rights belong to his employer, in this case Ford, unless or until Ford sells or otherwise transfers those rights to another party, or possibly licenses someone else to produce the item in question.
If you were to make your own, for your own use, no-one from Ford is going to either notice or care even if they do notice, providing it didn't give them a bad name by falling to pieces or killing someone. Especially if you started with the legal identity of a complete car, and kept it registered at that complete car, i.e. a restoration rather than a "new" car.
If you turn such an enterprise into a business by making new entire Escort shells for sale, then, yes, as soon as they find out they will want to know why you think you can rip off their design work. If you go and ask them nicely in advance, it is possible that they would licence the design and even the tooling if they have any of it left. But they are free to do so, or not, as they like, and they can charge you anything they want for the rights by way of up-front fee or royalty.
In most cases if a designer is employed by a company to do the design work, the rights belong to his employer, in this case Ford, unless or until Ford sells or otherwise transfers those rights to another party, or possibly licenses someone else to produce the item in question.
If you were to make your own, for your own use, no-one from Ford is going to either notice or care even if they do notice, providing it didn't give them a bad name by falling to pieces or killing someone. Especially if you started with the legal identity of a complete car, and kept it registered at that complete car, i.e. a restoration rather than a "new" car.
If you turn such an enterprise into a business by making new entire Escort shells for sale, then, yes, as soon as they find out they will want to know why you think you can rip off their design work. If you go and ask them nicely in advance, it is possible that they would licence the design and even the tooling if they have any of it left. But they are free to do so, or not, as they like, and they can charge you anything they want for the rights by way of up-front fee or royalty.
Edited by Lowtimer on Sunday 19th May 21:58
J4CKO said:
How long is the IP on a car shell ?
Copyright is normally 70 years but then the copyright for the design can be sold again, and almost always will be. It's unlikely any company would leave a design unsold, or at least it would be picked up pretty quickly by another company.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff