RE: TVR sold to British buyer?
Discussion
If the new owner is Les Edgar, didn't he help take Aston back to Le Mans a few years back?
I seem to recognise his name from AMOC circles.
Aston's VH Generation2 chassis might be a good starting point as they are phasing it out for the Gen4.
I seem to recognise his name from AMOC circles.
Aston's VH Generation2 chassis might be a good starting point as they are phasing it out for the Gen4.
Edited by DonkeyApple on Friday 7th June 10:48
CDP said:
Using American V8s would be a good starting point - cheap, powerful, reliable and no issues on emissions. It would also allow easier sale in the US, especially if those cars were partially assembled by the importers. I can't help thinking that if TVR had taken this route and spent their engine R&D budget on improving production they'd still have been with us.
I don't see why a backbone chassis and GRP body would pose too much of an issue providing the funding is in place under European low volume type approval schemes - Caterham has achieved it.
Yeah good shout! I mentioned american V8's in another TVR post actually They are the obvious starting place. Large capacity, sound awesome, plenty of torque and power, millions spent on the R&D so they actually work. Unlike the crap engines TVR made themselves. I don't see why a backbone chassis and GRP body would pose too much of an issue providing the funding is in place under European low volume type approval schemes - Caterham has achieved it.
Also you've already god the gearbox and some of the drive train.
Corvette and Ford blocks come to mind.
Do you know what the laws are regarding these low volume schemes? - I see this as being TVR's biggest stumbling block.
If they have develop computer systems that customers don't actually want then I don't think it'll work.
I work in this area and development of these systems are seriously expensive! Mainly because of the amount of testing and tuning required.
new owners didn't create a buzz as such, they just knew one would happen. I said it in the other thread and I will say it again here. Let's just try and avoid the bitter negativity because all that's been released is a few words and no plans. 6th June was the 5th anniversary of TW's death, so it's a poignant choice of date for the announcement. Put your bitterness towards the Russian to bed, and just give this guy a chance as you know nothing about any of it yet.
I'd like to see them start out making cars in a very low volume kind of way, like DJ Sportscars in Harlow. Build back the reputation and have a nice big order book of proper old school loud TVRs.
I'm sure there would be a market for the name if the quality and genuine built in 'TVRness' was there.
Keep it simple, build it up. It's a name worth bringing back if done right.
I'm sure there would be a market for the name if the quality and genuine built in 'TVRness' was there.
Keep it simple, build it up. It's a name worth bringing back if done right.
Blown2CV said:
new owners didn't create a buzz as such, they just knew one would happen. I said it in the other thread and I will say it again here. Let's just try and avoid the bitter negativity because all that's been released is a few words and no plans. 6th June was the 5th anniversary of TW's death, so it's a poignant choice of date for the announcement. Put your bitterness towards the Russian to bed, and just give this guy a chance as you know nothing about any of it yet.
i should say that possibly also stands for unfounded expectation and positivity, just wait and see.Of course it'd be great to have TVR back but I don't see how. I've been to the Lotus factory and when you see how much effort and cost there is to making 50 cars a week to modern standards I seriously wonder how a business case for TVR can stack up. The up front costs would be huge. The old cars are simply too old IMO to be viable going forward. However, maybe they are looking at buying another company, lets fact it, there have been plenty of 'nearly' start ups in the past.
Blown2CV said:
new owners didn't create a buzz as such, they just knew one would happen. I said it in the other thread and I will say it again here. Let's just try and avoid the bitter negativity because all that's been released is a few words and no plans. 6th June was the 5th anniversary of TW's death, so it's a poignant choice of date for the announcement. Put your bitterness towards the Russian to bed, and just give this guy a chance as you know nothing about any of it yet.
Hear, heargsuk1 said:
Unlike the crap engines TVR made themselves.
The Speed6 engine is actually an absolutely awesome engine now it has been completely sorted and the problems with the original design have been identified and rectified. There is nothing crap about it at all. Maybe you could take your regurgitated second-hand Clarkson-inspired opinions elsewhere? Or get your facts right. Either works for me.
Frimley111R said:
Of course it'd be great to have TVR back but I don't see how. I've been to the Lotus factory and when you see how much effort and cost there is to making 50 cars a week to modern standards I seriously wonder how a business case for TVR can stack up. The up front costs would be huge. The old cars are simply too old IMO to be viable going forward. However, maybe they are looking at buying another company, lets fact it, there have been plenty of 'nearly' start ups in the past.
I guess the route may be to use an existing chassis and drivetrain which is future proofed and run a small operation to fit a body and interior. Starting ground up makes it hard to see how enough units could ever be sold to recover costs. gsuk1 said:
CDP said:
Using American V8s would be a good starting point - cheap, powerful, reliable and no issues on emissions. It would also allow easier sale in the US, especially if those cars were partially assembled by the importers. I can't help thinking that if TVR had taken this route and spent their engine R&D budget on improving production they'd still have been with us.
I don't see why a backbone chassis and GRP body would pose too much of an issue providing the funding is in place under European low volume type approval schemes - Caterham has achieved it.
Yeah good shout! I mentioned american V8's in another TVR post actually They are the obvious starting place. Large capacity, sound awesome, plenty of torque and power, millions spent on the R&D so they actually work. Unlike the crap engines TVR made themselves. I don't see why a backbone chassis and GRP body would pose too much of an issue providing the funding is in place under European low volume type approval schemes - Caterham has achieved it.
Also you've already god the gearbox and some of the drive train.
Corvette and Ford blocks come to mind.
Do you know what the laws are regarding these low volume schemes? - I see this as being TVR's biggest stumbling block.
If they have develop computer systems that customers don't actually want then I don't think it'll work.
I work in this area and development of these systems are seriously expensive! Mainly because of the amount of testing and tuning required.
Personally I can't see a stigma with the idea of an LS engine. The Rover engine never hurt the Chimera, in fact a power unit with a known reliable heritage might be just be the reassurance a lot of previous owners might need.
Lightningman said:
First this:
fair play, but that was my closing statement on the matter! Blown2CV said:
Put your bitterness towards the Russian to bed
...and then thisBlown2CV said:
shows that the Russian didn't care about it in the end if he sold it to a buyer without checking what their plans were
Irony? 
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