RE: Honda Insight: You Know You Want To

RE: Honda Insight: You Know You Want To

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Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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anonymous said:
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I'm not sure this was does have a good battery. Seller states:

"The batteries are in good order and give no problems providing the car is used regularly. Unfortunately I now have too many cars and this car isn't getting used enough, which means the batteries have to be recharged if the car is left."

That to me suggests an amount of caution for the buyer.

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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IN51GHT said:
Cheers In51ght, funny old one this, perhaps he's got greedy with the number of people watching etc? Can't really see its worth that, as others have mentioned the sellers pretty much telling you the batteries are knackered.......

Edited by acme on Sunday 23 June 12:24


Edited by acme on Sunday 23 June 12:24

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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acme said:
IN51GHT said:
Cheers In51ght, funny old one this, perhaps he's no got greedy with the number of people watching etc? Can't really see its worth that, as others have mentioned the sellers pretty much telling you the batteries are knackered.......
A good one, at those miles may be worth 4500-5500. Id be looking at 7500-8500 if I were to decide to let mine go.

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Sunday 23rd June 2013
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I emailed the seller about the dodgy battery, he has stated the ima light does come on every so often if he doesn't reset the car every few weeks. That's a dead/dying battery as suspected i'm afraid. The price is too high now imho.

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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IN51GHT said:
A good one, at those miles may be worth 4500-5500. Id be looking at 7500-8500 if I were to decide to let mine go.
Thing is at that kind of cost it defeats one of the points of getting such a car, the economy is negated by the initial cost (& potential risk of needing batteries).

Though I suppose you could argue these are probably falling into the hands of those who consider them a 'hobby'.

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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peterperkins said:
I emailed the seller about the dodgy battery, he has stated the ima light does come on every so often if he doesn't reset the car every few weeks. That's a dead/dying battery as suspected i'm afraid. The price is too high now imho.
I assume as with all battery driven products we know the consequences of not using them, and therefore I'd assume all of these would need new batteries - low milers where the batteries have been run down, and high milers that are simply worn out.....

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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acme said:
Thing is at that kind of cost it defeats one of the points of getting such a car, the economy is negated by the initial cost (& potential risk of needing batteries).

Though I suppose you could argue these are probably falling into the hands of those who consider them a 'hobby'.

Mine has a fresh battery pack

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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acme said:
Thing is at that kind of cost it defeats one of the points of getting such a car, the economy is negated by the initial cost (& potential risk of needing batteries).

Though I suppose you could argue these are probably falling into the hands of those who consider them a 'hobby'.
To be fair, the things are 13 years old. What proportion of purely petrol powered cars last to 13 without something putting them beyond economical repair? How often do you actually see a T-reg or older car on the road?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

205 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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acme said:
Thing is at that kind of cost it defeats one of the points of getting such a car, the economy is negated by the initial cost (& potential risk of needing batteries).

Though I suppose you could argue these are probably falling into the hands of those who consider them a 'hobby'.
But at this age and price i don't think anyone wants one as a cheap runabout

A similar age of Nissian micra will cost less to run due to purchase cost and maintencance costs.

The Mk1 insight is firmly in the petrolhead nerd camp


acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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Agreed, as I mentioned earlier in the thread these appeal to the 'petrolhead geek' - count me in.

I think you'd run one out of interest and would look less at the day to day costs, more so the overall running cost - zero depreciation? Though of course you'll need to consider the batteries as probably a consumable item, albeit a big one!

kambites

67,591 posts

222 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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acme said:
Agreed, as I mentioned earlier in the thread these appeal to the 'petrolhead geek' - count me in.

I think you'd run one out of interest and would look less at the day to day costs, more so the overall running cost - zero depreciation? Though of course you'll need to consider the batteries as probably a consumable item, albeit a big one!
I guess as "interesting cars" go, it's pretty cheap to run. I think we new battery every ten years(?) at £2k isn't too bad, considering how low the other running costs should be.

12v3pot

5,135 posts

136 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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One problem with any older interesting car is that the simplest low-speed shunt writes it off. If you've just put in a new battery, it'd be more than a bit annoying. (Interesting argument with the insurance company too, I bet.)

I want it to make sense, and I'll keep an open mind, but for now, the Aygo will do for daily duties.

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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kambites said:
I guess as "interesting cars" go, it's pretty cheap to run. I think we new battery every ten years(?) at £2k isn't too bad, considering how low the other running costs should be.
Agreed, as ever the usual 'go in with your eyes wide open' caveat applies. Though given In51ght's comment (how much he'd sell his for) you could probably re-sell and claw back a large amount of the battery cost by the sounds of it - I guess these are such a specialist car that only those 'in the know' would buy - least you'd hope!

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Monday 24th June 2013
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12v3pot said:
One problem with any older interesting car is that the simplest low-speed shunt writes it off. If you've just put in a new battery, it'd be more than a bit annoying. (Interesting argument with the insurance company too, I bet.)

I want it to make sense, and I'll keep an open mind, but for now, the Aygo will do for daily duties.
Normally I'd agree absolutely, but these are now so expensive that they shouldn't be easily written off - logically (but are the ally panels very expensive?). Though I bet quite a few were when they were at the bottom of their depreciation curve, or am I wrong in assuming in years gone by that they were a lot cheaper?

As with classic cars I wonder if you could get an agreed value to protect against this? Though I wonder what insurance company would do it, I think even for specialists it would be a case of 'err, the computer says it's a 13 year old Jap banger, guv!'

hedges88

640 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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kambites said:
To be fair, the things are 13 years old. What proportion of purely petrol powered cars last to 13 without something putting them beyond economical repair? How often do you actually see a T-reg or older car on the road?
I just wanted to jump at the chance to say my Honda which was within the dealer network for 11 years never had anything other than servicing, no repair or warranty history. Since then nothing has failed either. So there's a 13 year old car that has not gone beyond economical repair smile

There's probably only one more thing more reliable than a Honda with batteries, and that's a Honda with just one battery!

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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Here you go for those after a cheap one - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Insight-Mk1-/27123...

At those miles it's just about run in.

Usget

5,426 posts

212 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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IN51GHT said:
Here you go for those after a cheap one - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Insight-Mk1-/27123...

At those miles it's just about run in.
What do you reckon that one is worth, given the miles and condition?

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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~3500-4000 IMHO.

Recent ish new IMA battery.
Proper tyres but no idea how much tread left or how old they are.
New 12v battery.
Some cosmetic work reqd.
Not UK tax exempt sadly.
New plugs fitted? Correct type and correctly indexed?

acme

2,972 posts

199 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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But 172k!!

For me these no longer 'make sense' financially, but then I guess they won't depreciate either, and I'd assume you buy them as much for what they are and the interest in them.

IN51GHT

8,782 posts

211 months

Tuesday 2nd July 2013
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peterperkins said:
~3500-4000 IMHO.
I agree