Most dangerous Road Conditions.

[surveyor]

Came across the most dangerous road conditions I'd seen in a long time.

A66 dual carriageway, thick (and I mean thick) mud across where a farmer has been in and out of his field.

I was not paying attention and was caught unaware. Slithered over at 80. An inexperienced driver panicking, or a motorbike would have been in big trouble...

Very selfish of the farmer.

I'm wondering if I should have rung 999. Seemed like it would have been an over-reaction, but in retrospect maybe not.

[Motorrad]

To be fair most of us would have been 10mph slower. Also me on my motorcycle which would have royally fked me up. That's why I guess you'd have been cruising at 69mph when you came upon the problem, officer.

Please let the appropriate people know ASAP

[Crashy]

There's no such thing as dangerous road conditions, there's only driving too hard.

I wouldn't class myself as a 'good' driver but I have a general rule, only drive as hard as you can see in front of you, leave yourself enough room to brake for unanticipated hazards.

[Patrick Bateman]

Crashy said:

There's no such thing as dangerous road conditions

Of course there is.

[10 Pence Short]

Was that over Stainmore?

I used to live just the other side in Appleby.

The most dangerous (regular) conditions I've seen were nearby on the M6, Tebay. It regularly hails there. In the dark, you can't tell it's hail and it leaves a translucent, ice-slippery surface.

[surveyor]

T'was here

https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=54.448812,-1.689694&...

I'm a reasonable driver, but for whatever reason I did not see this coming. It's a learning experience.

The farmer had usefully put warning signs on the mud, rather than before....

[Willy Nilly]

surveyor said:

Came across the most dangerous road conditions I'd seen in a long time.

A66 dual carriageway, thick (and I mean thick) mud across where a farmer has been in and out of his field.

[b]I was not paying attention and was caught unaware.[b/] Slithered over at 80. An inexperienced driver panicking, or a motorbike would have been in big trouble...

Very selfish of the farmer.

I'm wondering if I should have rung 999. Seemed like it would have been an over-reaction, but in retrospect maybe not.

Your lack of attention was someone elses fault?

[surveyor]

Willy Nilly said:

surveyor said:

Came across the most dangerous road conditions I'd seen in a long time.

A66 dual carriageway, thick (and I mean thick) mud across where a farmer has been in and out of his field.

[b]I was not paying attention and was caught unaware.[b/] Slithered over at 80. An inexperienced driver panicking, or a motorbike would have been in big trouble...

Very selfish of the farmer.

I'm wondering if I should have rung 999. Seemed like it would have been an over-reaction, but in retrospect maybe not.

Your lack of attention was someone elses fault?

No the lack of attention was my fault. the inch thick mud across two lanes of a NSL Dual Carriageway with no advance warning was someone else's fault.

Keep up at the back!

[Prizam]

surveyor said:

No the lack of attention was my fault. the inch thick mud across two lanes of a NSL Dual Carriageway with no advance warning was someone else's fault.

Keep up at the back!

Why do you need to be warned that there might be mud on the road? You should be anticipating it.

Do you only watch out for deer on the road when there are "Warning deer" signs?

[Patrick Bateman]

Prizam said:

Why do you need to be warned that there might be mud on the road? You should be anticipating it.

Do you only watch out for deer on the road when there are "Warning deer" signs?

Christ.

[surveyor]

Prizam said:

surveyor said:

No the lack of attention was my fault. the inch thick mud across two lanes of a NSL Dual Carriageway with no advance warning was someone else's fault.

Keep up at the back!

Why do you need to be warned that there might be mud on the road? You should be anticipating it.

Do you only watch out for deer on the road when there are "Warning deer" signs?

To be frank - I did not expect it to this degree.

Can't say whether I did not see it as I was not paying attention, or road features hid it. I suspect the former to be honest. But all it needs is a motorbike following a car too close etc or an inexperienced driver. I survived, obviously.

Presumably your happy that farmers leave mud traps on NSL dual carriageways then?

It's also an offence...

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=...

Edited by surveyor on Wednesday 31st July 22:07

[Willy Nilly]

surveyor said:

Willy Nilly said:

surveyor said:

Came across the most dangerous road conditions I'd seen in a long time.

A66 dual carriageway, thick (and I mean thick) mud across where a farmer has been in and out of his field.

[b]I was not paying attention and was caught unaware.[b/] Slithered over at 80. An inexperienced driver panicking, or a motorbike would have been in big trouble...

Very selfish of the farmer.

I'm wondering if I should have rung 999. Seemed like it would have been an over-reaction, but in retrospect maybe not.

It wasn't an inch thick was it? There was some mud in 2 tracks from the tractor. An inch deep across the width of a dual carriageway would be cubic meters of dirt, which wouldn't have been dragged out on wheels. When I've cleaned up the mud on the road we rarely get more than a barrow full.

Most tractors are on a 72 inch track width centre to centre which is 6 feet. Even accounting for a 21 inch tyre you can easily straddle it, assuming you're not fiddling with your phone.

Yes, the mud should be signed and cleaned up, but it happened, lorries spill diesel, tyres fall to bits animals escape onto the road. Open your eyes and watch what you're doing.

Your lack of attention was someone elses fault?

No the lack of attention was my fault. the inch thick mud across two lanes of a NSL Dual Carriageway with no advance warning was someone else's fault.

Keep up at the back!

[9mm]

OP - you should have expected this (the reaction not the mud).

Just be grateful you didn't crash into a airliner that had landed in the wrong place.

[7mike]

surveyor said:

T'was here

https://maps.google.co.uk/?ll=54.448812,-1.689694&...

I'm a reasonable driver, but for whatever reason I did not see this coming. It's a learning experience.

The farmer had usefully put warning signs on the mud, rather than before....

The last time I passed that spot there were a couple of horse drawn caravans on their way to Appleby horse fair plodding down lane one. Would hate to think someone was half asleep alongside an LGV when the trucker sees them.

[g3org3y]

Crashy said:

There's no such thing as dangerous road conditions, there's only driving too hard.

Willy Nilly said:

Your lack of attention was someone elses fault?

Prizam said:

Why do you need to be warned that there might be mud on the road? You should be anticipating it.

Do you only watch out for deer on the road when there are "Warning deer" signs?

Meanwhile in the real world...

[10 Pence Short]

7mike said:

The last time I passed that spot there were a couple of horse drawn caravans on their way to Appleby horse fair plodding down lane one. Would hate to think someone was half asleep alongside an LGV when the trucker sees them.

Back in 2007 a civilian police worker coming down Stainmore on his way to Carleton Hall hit the back of one, killing at least one of the occupants. It was half way down a half mile straight.

[7mike]

10 Pence Short said:

7mike said:

The last time I passed that spot there were a couple of horse drawn caravans on their way to Appleby horse fair plodding down lane one. Would hate to think someone was half asleep alongside an LGV when the trucker sees them.

Back in 2007 a civilian police worker coming down Stainmore on his way to Carleton Hall hit the back of one, killing at least one of the occupants. It was half way down a half mile straight.

It always amazes me when I here people say they are scared of driving on motorways but have no problem with dual carriageways. Cars at 70+ coupled with traffic at walking pace; not a time to switch off!