RE: Alfa 4C UK price announced

RE: Alfa 4C UK price announced

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Matthew Clarke

301 posts

140 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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This:
"Designed by Alfa Romeo engineers and manufactured at the Maserati plant in Modena, the captivating coupé with two bucket seats uses technologies and materials derived from the 8C Competizione - carbon, aluminium, rear-wheel drive - and technologies from the latest Alfa Romeo standard models currently on the market, but thoroughly developed to enhance the sports appeal of the new car to the full. This is demonstrated by the new 1750 Turbo Petrol engine with direct injection and aluminium block, the sophisticated "Alfa TCT" twin dry clutch transmission and the Alfa DNA selector with the brand-new Race mode."

This is all the info about the powerplant and transmission on the official release!

That isnt the monologue of a company that is particularly proud of what lays beneath the beautiful bodywork....

annodomini2

6,867 posts

252 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Quick review on topgear is stating gearbox issues.

RichB

51,634 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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pauly said:
...Ok it's less than a Cayman but it's very spartan inside, belts as door handles for example...
Isn't that also what Porsche did with the Boxster Spyder and charged more?

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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A boxster is built to a gap, accountants, a committe, over processed thought, not the best it can be be, held back, but to me the Alfa feels like it is the best it can be, so can't really see how you would choose a boxster over it

Thermonuclear

183 posts

135 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Is the 4C's natural competitor not the Lotus Elise/Exige?? I was under the impression that the car was aimed squarely at this market rather than Porsche Cayman....

Beanoir

1,327 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Oh why did they stick with those headlights...the concept car had such a better look.

Nice looking car apart from that, if a little overpriced - like the F-type.

C1RVY

2,329 posts

264 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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I love it, but not sure who will buy it.

I'm not sure who it's aimed at. Is it a track day toy?

Is it a weekend driver?

Punters in Caymans like luxury, those in Exiges like track days. I'm a fan of Alfa coupes, I've had a few, but I'm nowhere near this car. Which is a shame.

RichB

51,634 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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C1RVY said:
I love it, but not sure who will buy it.

I'm not sure who it's aimed at. Is it a track day toy?

Is it a weekend driver?

Punters in Caymans like luxury, those in Exiges like track days. I'm a fan of Alfa coupes, I've had a few, but I'm nowhere near this car. Which is a shame.
I could certainly be interested if they build a Spider version. For me a weekend toy needs a soft top. I like the style though.

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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annodomini2 said:
Quick review on topgear is stating gearbox issues.
Really?

The gearbox is the TCT dual-clutcher, which we've previously slagged off in other cars (we're looking at you, MiTo). But here it's been tuned to suit a sports car and it slips into each gear pretty damn quickly. From what I can tell from this side of the car, there are no dramatic pauses between pulling the paddle and feeling the change (though it appears to be a touch sticky at curbside manoeuvring speeds).

I'm assuming that's the same article you read?

RichB

51,634 posts

285 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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So they've not even driven the car biglaugh

Puddenchucker

4,108 posts

219 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Beanoir said:
Oh why did they stick with those headlights...the concept car had such a better look.
According to a recent article in CAR magazine, FIAT boss Sergio Marchionne claimed it saved €4m by ditching the headlights of the concept car. It didn't elaborate further, so I'm guessing that must have been tooling costs?

SWoll

18,449 posts

259 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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RichB said:
So they've not even driven the car biglaugh
Or complained about the gearbox.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

157 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Looks lovely...

I'll have the Cayman please

CoolHands

18,696 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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beautiful and a decent price lets be honest, in this world of over-priced monster minis & chelsea tractors. The fact they've gone minimal eg belt strap door handles is brilliant! That - in my opinion - is brave in this day and age. Its 'safe' to fit all electric everything (even the boot for God's sake) like audi, so imo Alfa should be commended.

Adam B

27,273 posts

255 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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The first Cayman looked poor IMHO - too dainty and effeminate. Would have chosen the Alfa over it in a heartbeat.

Now that Porsche have transformed the looks the Cayman is far more desirable to me, so much harder call.

Trouble is I suspect many cayman owners are one car households so want the car to be sporty but also comfortable with some luxuries too

Hope the Alfa goes and handles as well as the cayman as Porsche need the competition

pete.g

1,527 posts

207 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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Following my brother's experiences with a 159 Ti, I would never buy an Alfa - mechanical, electrical and electronic issues, leaks, dodgy locks and customer service from the ninth circle of hell.


E30Addict

825 posts

173 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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will-w said:
The only part that ruins it for me are the headlights...

Other than that I think it's perfect and incredibly well priced, providing it performs as well as it looks
I couldn't agree more!

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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matpilch said:
buttonless steering wheel, thank god
Definitely a fact worth celebrating.

However, the wheel is still an abomination. It's FAR too thick for a sports car, and the shape does not lend itself to fluid driving.

However, it's nothing that a lovely aftermarket Nardi wheel couldn't solve, and otherwise this car looks to be a cracker.

jamieboy

5,911 posts

230 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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SWoll said:
annodomini2 said:
Quick review on topgear is stating gearbox issues.
Really?

The gearbox is the TCT dual-clutcher, which we've previously slagged off in other cars (we're looking at you, MiTo). But here it's been tuned to suit a sports car and it slips into each gear pretty damn quickly. From what I can tell from this side of the car, there are no dramatic pauses between pulling the paddle and feeling the change (though it appears to be a touch sticky at curbside manoeuvring speeds).

I'm assuming that's the same article you read?
No, I think he means this one: http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/alfa-romeo-4c-f...

TG said:
We'll get back to you later with fuller impressions but so far this is what we're thinking: great chassis and steering, supple ride, great performance. It's properly quick. But its flappy paddle gearbox is a pain in the bum, the blown 1.75-litre engine is too laggy until the boost kicks in with a chirruping whooompfhh, and you have to stand on the thing to really get it moving.
A bit lukewarm. frown

E38Ross

35,103 posts

213 months

Tuesday 17th September 2013
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pete.g said:
Following my brother's experiences with a 159 Ti, I would never buy an Alfa - mechanical, electrical and electronic issues, leaks, dodgy locks and customer service from the ninth circle of hell.
You had electrical AND electronic issues. Blimey, bad luck hehe