Indicating in general
Discussion
Seems to me that people are generally not bothering to indicate when changing lanes at in far greater numbers than even a year ago.
It would always be the usual suspects in the past such as Mercs and Beamers who were speeding at piss taking velocities.
Now it seems everyone who is either a crap driver (and theoretically this proportion of drivers is a constant) or are driving something that they regard as a bit special (Audi et al) also now regard themselves as part of the entitled group who don't need to use those little yellow lights.
Whilst this is a petty rant-ette I have seen quite a few instances of people having near misses as a result of this.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just something I have focused on and got out of proportion?
It would always be the usual suspects in the past such as Mercs and Beamers who were speeding at piss taking velocities.
Now it seems everyone who is either a crap driver (and theoretically this proportion of drivers is a constant) or are driving something that they regard as a bit special (Audi et al) also now regard themselves as part of the entitled group who don't need to use those little yellow lights.
Whilst this is a petty rant-ette I have seen quite a few instances of people having near misses as a result of this.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just something I have focused on and got out of proportion?
Really annoys me on motorways. Especially when people don't indicate when moving from lane 3 to lane 2 when there are vehicles in lane 1. Downright dangerous.
I will on occasion flash, but these days do my best to avoid confrontation especially if my family are with me. The focus on speed and lack of focus on other driving standards is to blame.
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
I will on occasion flash, but these days do my best to avoid confrontation especially if my family are with me. The focus on speed and lack of focus on other driving standards is to blame.
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
panholio said:
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
This is one of the most annoying and potentially dangerous things on the road - nobody seems to understand how roundabouts work or indicate on them at all. Obviously you can't rely on an indicator, but indicating can avoid hesitancy, congestion, road rage or just an embarrassing pull out and brake again moment (which can lead to a rear end accident).A few years ago I was sat near a roundabout with a driving instructor friend of mine waiting for another friend to turn up and in a bored moment we decided to count how many people indicated properly at the roundabout. Over a ten minute period we saw 20% of people indicating properly. If I had to guess, I reckon it's now about 5 to 10%.
Of the small percentage of people who do indicate, almost all of them indicate as they're making the manoeuvre, not beforehand. If people really are that stupid what hope do we have as a country?...
RobM77 said:
panholio said:
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
This is one of the most annoying and potentially dangerous things on the road - nobody seems to understand how roundabouts work or indicate on them at all. Obviously you can't rely on an indicator, but indicating can avoid hesitancy, congestion, road rage or just an embarrassing pull out and brake again moment (which can lead to a rear end accident).A few years ago I was sat near a roundabout with a driving instructor friend of mine waiting for another friend to turn up and in a bored moment we decided to count how many people indicated properly at the roundabout. Over a ten minute period we saw 20% of people indicating properly. If I had to guess, I reckon it's now about 5 to 10%.
Of the small percentage of people who do indicate, almost all of them indicate as they're making the manoeuvre, not beforehand. If people really are that stupid what hope do we have as a country?...
However personally I find no indication less frustrating than incorrect indication, at least if someone isn't indicating you know you have to be weary but if someone appears to be indicating to do one thing but then does another that can cause more accidents.
Today a Vectra pulled out in front of me from a t-junction and then 30 feet later pulled in to a car park on the left. However he stopped with the B-pillar level with the edge of the road to think about which space to park in, leaving the back half of the car blocking the road.
He didn't indicate at any point, and when I hooted at him to let him know there was someone waiting to use the road he flipped me off.
One of the people who occasionally gives me a lift doesn't indicate as "it's obvious where I'm going". I've tried arguing but it's as pointless as arguing on PH. No one has hit hit yet so he must be "safe enough".
My ex-MIL didn't indicate when driving to and from work because "everyone knows where I'm going" because she always commuted at the same time of day.
What we need is a cull.
He didn't indicate at any point, and when I hooted at him to let him know there was someone waiting to use the road he flipped me off.
One of the people who occasionally gives me a lift doesn't indicate as "it's obvious where I'm going". I've tried arguing but it's as pointless as arguing on PH. No one has hit hit yet so he must be "safe enough".
My ex-MIL didn't indicate when driving to and from work because "everyone knows where I'm going" because she always commuted at the same time of day.
What we need is a cull.
I had the pleasure of going to a wedding last weekend in Italy. We flew into Naples and hired a car to get the venue in Positano.
'NOTHING' could have prepared me for the driving experience!!!
It was absolutely crazy! Forget the highway code totally, let alone indicating, because there are no rules! I should have suspected soemthing as the x/s on the hire car was 2000€'s, I was encouraged to take another insurance out to lower this to zero.
But, after 3 days of driving I found it to be hilarious, a great experience if a 'little' un-nerving to begin with!
'NOTHING' could have prepared me for the driving experience!!!
It was absolutely crazy! Forget the highway code totally, let alone indicating, because there are no rules! I should have suspected soemthing as the x/s on the hire car was 2000€'s, I was encouraged to take another insurance out to lower this to zero.
But, after 3 days of driving I found it to be hilarious, a great experience if a 'little' un-nerving to begin with!
panholio said:
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
As I'm sure has happened to a lot of people on here, I was coming up to a roundabout, car appeared to my right so I stopped, he took the first exit (where I was coming from so I needn't have stopped), I threw my arm up in annoyance, but he stopped and apologised! Was a bit dumbstruck...
dave7692 said:
RobM77 said:
panholio said:
Roundabouts as well... although I often don't trust people and make my own judgment as to whether I go or not. Roundabouts flow a lot better when people indicate.
This is one of the most annoying and potentially dangerous things on the road - nobody seems to understand how roundabouts work or indicate on them at all. Obviously you can't rely on an indicator, but indicating can avoid hesitancy, congestion, road rage or just an embarrassing pull out and brake again moment (which can lead to a rear end accident).A few years ago I was sat near a roundabout with a driving instructor friend of mine waiting for another friend to turn up and in a bored moment we decided to count how many people indicated properly at the roundabout. Over a ten minute period we saw 20% of people indicating properly. If I had to guess, I reckon it's now about 5 to 10%.
Of the small percentage of people who do indicate, almost all of them indicate as they're making the manoeuvre, not beforehand. If people really are that stupid what hope do we have as a country?...
The really dangerous one is people turning right from the left lane of similarly simple roundabouts without indicating (no lane markings, just a straight Highway Code job) - something I see about once a week.
People seem to forget there are other vehicles on the road, you get the ones who don't indicate so you have no idea what they are planning to do those who indicate and manouver irrespective of other vehicles, then you get the ones who must just like the clicking noise in the cabin as they have flashing lights that bare no resemblance to their intentions.
dave7692 said:
Exactly, people's lack of understanding of roundabouts frustrates me too, the amount of people that don't know what lane to be in either is simply ridiculous.
However personally I find no indication less frustrating than incorrect indication, at least if someone isn't indicating you know you have to be weary but if someone appears to be indicating to do one thing but then does another that can cause more accidents.
Most drivers indicate badly at roundabouts because they are thinking about where they are going rather than about the intention they are communicating to other drivers. I agree I'd rather they didn't indicate at all. However personally I find no indication less frustrating than incorrect indication, at least if someone isn't indicating you know you have to be weary but if someone appears to be indicating to do one thing but then does another that can cause more accidents.
RobM77 said:
The really dangerous one is people turning right from the left lane of similarly simple roundabouts without indicating (no lane markings, just a straight Highway Code job) - something I see about once a week.
The only time I've genuinely come close to crashing in years was when some tit in a Skoda did exactly that on a mini roundabout.panholio said:
Really annoys me on motorways. Especially when people don't indicate when moving from lane 3 to lane 2 when there are vehicles in lane 1. Downright dangerous.
There is no reason to indicate when moving back to position after completing an overtake. The car you have overtaken is now behind you and won't be blasting up the inside and you use your eyes to see if someone in L1 is signalling to move into L2. Simples. People who indicate left on motorways is another example of poor driving, except when taking a slip road or moving onto a new road denoted by thicker white lines.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff