Fueling on the "wrong side"

Fueling on the "wrong side"

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RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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Diesel can froth and spray back. That’s why you see overflow marks down the side of filler flaps.

Pica-Pica

13,824 posts

85 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Diesel can froth and spray back. That’s why you see overflow marks down the side of filler flaps.
That is just sloppy filling, presumably by non-owner drivers.

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Johnnytheboy said:
RobM77 said:
The more interesting question is what's the ratio of cars that fill on the LHS to RHS? Is this deliberately maintained to even out queues at petrol stations? scratchchin
I've often wondered this as it's not even like manufacturers are consistent 'lefties' or 'righties'.

I believe the tradition was that you filled up on the nearside (passenger side) as that allowed you to pull up to road side pumps which you still see in parts of Europe. When a usually left hand drive car was converted to right hand drive this put the filler cap on our offside. Japanese cars are "usually" filled on the nearside as they were built to be right hand drive from the beginning.

Please note - this is not a hard and fast rule at all and I can disprove it within my own fleet!
Mercedes - offside (fits the rule)
Suzuki - nearside (fits the rule)
Old Alfa - nearside (doesn't fit the rule, even though the boot release is on the left as they couldn't be arsed changing it for RHD!).
Spot on.

Also, indicators for RHD cars used to be on the right (nearest the door), as this was considered the 'correct' side. This seems only to be the case now on JDM and Aussie cars. I read somewhere that traditionally, the exhaust pipe was positioned on the offside, furthest from pedestrians. Makes sense I guess?

Going back to the OP, my Swift has the filler on the nearside, so there's usually no queue for the LHS pumps biggrin

DoubleD

22,154 posts

109 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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You could easily refuel a swift from either side

V88Dicky

7,305 posts

184 months

Thursday 11th October 2018
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DoubleD said:
You could easily refuel a swift from either side
Yep, I don't have a problem with that. But it's rare for the nearside pumps to be busy, at least near me anyway smile


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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I fill up at the first free pump, so usually the ‘wrong’ side
Great to sweep in while there is a queue at the ‘wrong’ side pumps. People look at you like you’re mad!
Never had a problem with the hose reaching tall car like wife’s Kuga even. As ling as you stop in the right place, easy
No scratches/smelly hands/etc in years
A complete non issue & saves me all of 5 mins a month smile

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
RicksAlfas said:
Diesel can froth and spray back. That’s why you see overflow marks down the side of filler flaps.
That is just sloppy filling, presumably by non-owner drivers.
You don’t see it on petrol cars though. I’m a careful filler wink and I have achieved the stain of shame on diesel cars but never on a petrol. That’s why diesel nozzles are often grotty and petrol ones aren’t. I believe the manufacturers put anti-frothing agents into diesel fuel to help.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
Never had this issue filling with diesel. Simply never.
You have never held a diesel pump nozzle without gloves and had your hands stink of diesel afterwards? Makes you wonder why they provide gloves at all...

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Jimboka said:
I fill up at the first free pump, so usually the ‘wrong’ side
Great to sweep in while there is a queue at the ‘wrong’ side pumps. People look at you like you’re mad!
Never had a problem with the hose reaching tall car like wife’s Kuga even. As ling as you stop in the right place, easy
No scratches/smelly hands/etc in years
A complete non issue & saves me all of 5 mins a month smile
I filled up last night on the "wrong side". There were queues to use the "right side" despite the huge 3ft tall signs on every pump saying "Long reach hoses. Use both sides". I am very anal about both my cars and have never marked either of them with the fuel hose as I park just past the pump and hold the hose away from the bodywork.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

155 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Pica-Pica said:
RicksAlfas said:
Diesel can froth and spray back. That’s why you see overflow marks down the side of filler flaps.
That is just sloppy filling, presumably by non-owner drivers.
You don’t see it on petrol cars though. I’m a careful filler wink and I have achieved the stain of shame on diesel cars but never on a petrol. That’s why diesel nozzles are often grotty and petrol ones aren’t. I believe the manufacturers put anti-frothing agents into diesel fuel to help.
Isn't that more because any petrol spillage down the side will evaporate fairly quickly but diesel won't it'll stick because it's oily?

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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SonicShadow said:
Isn't that more because any petrol spillage down the side will evaporate fairly quickly but diesel won't it'll stick because it's oily?
Yes, that's very true. But you rarely get petrol "blow back" in the first place, (unless you are really trying to get 60 litres in to a 55 litre tank biggrin ).

Pica-Pica

13,824 posts

85 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
Pica-Pica said:
Never had this issue filling with diesel. Simply never.
You have never held a diesel pump nozzle without gloves and had your hands stink of diesel afterwards? Makes you wonder why they provide gloves at all...
No, never had need to wear gloves, or wipe hands after using diesel, or had hands stink. Never had drips running down the car. Why would people accept fuel stations that have such issues? Don’t blame the fuel, blame the filling stations and their equipment (I always use Shell).

RicksAlfas

13,408 posts

245 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
No, never had need to wear gloves, or wipe hands after using diesel, or had hands stink. Never had drips running down the car. Why would people accept fuel stations that have such issues? Don’t blame the fuel, blame the filling stations and their equipment (I always use Shell).
We shall congratulate you on your good fortune then. You are unique!

jfire

5,893 posts

73 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Grahamdub said:
Jimboka said:
I fill up at the first free pump, so usually the ‘wrong’ side
Great to sweep in while there is a queue at the ‘wrong’ side pumps. People look at you like you’re mad!
Never had a problem with the hose reaching tall car like wife’s Kuga even. As ling as you stop in the right place, easy
No scratches/smelly hands/etc in years
A complete non issue & saves me all of 5 mins a month smile
I filled up last night on the "wrong side". There were queues to use the "right side" despite the huge 3ft tall signs on every pump saying "Long reach hoses. Use both sides". I am very anal about both my cars and have never marked either of them with the fuel hose as I park just past the pump and hold the hose away from the bodywork.
This. WHY?!!!!!

There's no way even 10% of these people are concerned about their paintwork, looking at the state of the cars.

Al U

2,313 posts

132 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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The real thing that annoys me and I have only come across a couple of numpties that do it, is when people will queue in the middle of 2 pumps to try and go to whichever one becomes free first.

Most people know that this is not how it works, you must place your bet, pick a side and if like me you always pick wrong and end up behind the person that likes to do their weekly shop in the kiosk or the sad bloke trying to chat up the lady on the till then you must accept you picked the slow side and wait.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Al U said:
The real thing that annoys me and I have only come across a couple of numpties that do it, is when people will queue in the middle of 2 pumps to try and go to whichever one becomes free first.

Most people know that this is not how it works, you must place your bet, pick a side and if like me you always pick wrong and end up behind the person that likes to do their weekly shop in the kiosk or the sad bloke trying to chat up the lady on the till then you must accept you picked the slow side and wait.
Or they try and dominate the whole row of pumps by parking in the middle of the entrance laugh

Pica-Pica

13,824 posts

85 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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RicksAlfas said:
Pica-Pica said:
No, never had need to wear gloves, or wipe hands after using diesel, or had hands stink. Never had drips running down the car. Why would people accept fuel stations that have such issues? Don’t blame the fuel, blame the filling stations and their equipment (I always use Shell).
We shall congratulate you on your good fortune then. You are unique!
Indeed, we are all unique. But this is not good fortune, just not choosing a rat-hole of a service station, a normal car that does not spit-back or froth up (most don’t), and just taking normal standard of care. Lord help me, I even top up to the next litre after the first cut off with no issues!

Al U

2,313 posts

132 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Grahamdub said:
Al U said:
The real thing that annoys me and I have only come across a couple of numpties that do it, is when people will queue in the middle of 2 pumps to try and go to whichever one becomes free first.

Most people know that this is not how it works, you must place your bet, pick a side and if like me you always pick wrong and end up behind the person that likes to do their weekly shop in the kiosk or the sad bloke trying to chat up the lady on the till then you must accept you picked the slow side and wait.
Or they try and dominate the whole row of pumps by parking in the middle of the entrance laugh
I haven't come across any specialists that adopt that tactic. That would be special.

theoriginalpaul

197 posts

71 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
Mr2Mike said:
Pica-Pica said:
Never had this issue filling with diesel. Simply never.
You have never held a diesel pump nozzle without gloves and had your hands stink of diesel afterwards? Makes you wonder why they provide gloves at all...
No, never had need to wear gloves, or wipe hands after using diesel, or had hands stink. Never had drips running down the car. Why would people accept fuel stations that have such issues? Don’t blame the fuel, blame the filling stations and their equipment (I always use Shell).
You've clearly never used the Morrison's stationnear me - the pumps are always minging. Come to think about it there's always loads of spillage on the floor too. It's probably due to volume of traffic as it's always busy, but surely at some point it becomes a safety issue, rather than just an annoyance for customers?

motco

15,965 posts

247 months

Friday 12th October 2018
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I've had a few 'long hard stares' for driving down the centre aisle between cars at the pumps so I could use the vacant farthest pump of parallel lines of pumps. This is where the nearest pump is occupied and the farthest one's user has finished and gone. It means they have to drive around my car in order to leave, but there's ample room even if the other farthest pump is busy.