Fueling on the "wrong side"

Fueling on the "wrong side"

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Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
In some small supermarkets around here, that is the accepted thing, I call it McDonalds queuing.
It also seems to be the standard for self service checkouts too.

Personally I don't see the issue, unless the "queuing in the middle" is causing problems further back, like stopping other cars entering the forecourt, or blocking other vehicles from accessing a pump elsewhere that has become free.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Frank7 said:
While I don’t for one minute doubt the stories of getting “pulled” for driving off without paying when you’ve only moved forward to allow access to the pump, I used to regularly use the Shell filling station in Southwark Bridge Road, SE1 when I was driving a taxi.
This was very popular with Black Cab drivers, as the diesel was consistently a decent price, and it was midway between Waterloo and London Bridge stations, and a few hundred metres from the Tate Modern, and Shakespeare’s Globe theatre, all places where you could easily trap a fare.
All Black Cab drivers using the place would always move forward to allow the guy behind to use the pump, and I’m not aware of anyone being penalised for it, so maybe it depends on the individual garage.
Well I presume someone either before me must have not paid, surely it only flags up if they don't get payment?

Corley is so busy at times but I cant see how they could be confused as to who has paid or not, surely they still have to press a button to allow the pump to start?


DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Al U said:
DoubleD said:
K50 DEL said:
Grahamdub said:
Al U said:
The real thing that annoys me and I have only come across a couple of numpties that do it, is when people will queue in the middle of 2 pumps to try and go to whichever one becomes free first.

Most people know that this is not how it works, you must place your bet, pick a side and if like me you always pick wrong and end up behind the person that likes to do their weekly shop in the kiosk or the sad bloke trying to chat up the lady on the till then you must accept you picked the slow side and wait.
Or they try and dominate the whole row of pumps by parking in the middle of the entrance laugh
That happens so much round here.... they get properly stroppy when I drive round them and queue directly behind a pump!
How is it a problem if all they are doing is waiting for the next available pump?
In a supermarket when you are ready to pay do you straddle two checkouts and wait for the next available one?
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
That isn't conceptually wrong, but blocking the forecourt due to retarded queuing and causing causes to queue out onto the road is wrong. Pick a pump and live with your choice, just you you have to at a checkout.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Mr2Mike said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
That isn't conceptually wrong, but blocking the forecourt due to retarded queuing and causing causes to queue out onto the road is wrong. Pick a pump and live with your choice, just you you have to at a checkout.
I agree if you are forcing others to wait on the road.

Pan Pan Pan

9,917 posts

111 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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In some supermarkets in France you fill up, and then move forward to the pay booth, so that the pump is cleared as soon as a driver has got their fuel.
The problem with many garages here which have shops / mini supermarkets attached to them, is that some dumb a*ses spend ages wandering around the aisles wondering what they are going to buy, whilst leaving their car alongside the pumps, and queues of other motorists waiting to get fuel, Because of this any pump which can be used should be used, regardless of which side a cars fuel filler is. If some are so unaware that they can fill up on both sides.(even where some filling stations have signs telling them to do this), then they deserve all the delay they get.
Not much is as frustrating as queuing at a filling station where several pump spaces are free, but not being used, because the dozies in front only want to fill up on the `usual' side.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

219 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
Those people who duck out the back of a queue when the checkout next door opens up, without offering it up to those in front of them deserve a special place in hell.......s.

8bit

4,867 posts

155 months

Friday 19th October 2018
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Frank7 said:
While I don’t for one minute doubt the stories of getting “pulled” for driving off without paying when you’ve only moved forward to allow access to the pump, I used to regularly use the Shell filling station in Southwark Bridge Road, SE1 when I was driving a taxi.
This was very popular with Black Cab drivers, as the diesel was consistently a decent price, and it was midway between Waterloo and London Bridge stations, and a few hundred metres from the Tate Modern, and Shakespeare’s Globe theatre, all places where you could easily trap a fare.
All Black Cab drivers using the place would always move forward to allow the guy behind to use the pump, and I’m not aware of anyone being penalised for it, so maybe it depends on the individual garage.
I'm sure it will vary, probably more on the operator and/or company policy at a given station.

Correct me if I'm wrong but when you pick up the pump to start fuelling a bell sounds in the shop to alert the operator that someone wants to use that pump, they then have to press a button or something to authorise fuel delivery? So if the bell goes off for, say pump 3, and there's an outstanding balance on that pump then could it be that the operator just decides that someone's filled up and done a bunk and done whatever thing it is they do to report that?

bristolracer

5,541 posts

149 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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DoubleD said:
Mr2Mike said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
That isn't conceptually wrong, but blocking the forecourt due to retarded queuing and causing causes to queue out onto the road is wrong. Pick a pump and live with your choice, just you you have to at a checkout.
I agree if you are forcing others to wait on the road.
There is a smallish forecourt near me where people half turn in and then stop dead to see which pump is free leaving half their car stuck out onto a busy main road. Someone one day is going to get clobbered

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Moonhawk said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
Those people who duck out the back of a queue when the checkout next door opens up, without offering it up to those in front of them deserve a special place in hell.......s.
I’m rarely in a supermarket queue but on the extremely rare occasions that a new checkout has opened, if it gave me an advantage, I’ve moved to it, if one or two customers ahead of me didn’t move, that’s on them, they had the same opportunity as everyone else, if someone behind me got across before me, that’s on me for not moving quicker, no big deal.

Pica-Pica

13,803 posts

84 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Frank7 said:
Moonhawk said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
Those people who duck out the back of a queue when the checkout next door opens up, without offering it up to those in front of them deserve a special place in hell.......s.
I’m rarely in a supermarket queue but on the extremely rare occasions that a new checkout has opened, if it gave me an advantage, I’ve moved to it, if one or two customers ahead of me didn’t move, that’s on them, they had the same opportunity as everyone else, if someone behind me got across before me, that’s on me for not moving quicker, no big deal.
I expect you grab the only seat on a bus/train, despite a pregnant woman, or someone with a stick also waiting.

curlie467

7,650 posts

201 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
Frank7 said:
Moonhawk said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
Those people who duck out the back of a queue when the checkout next door opens up, without offering it up to those in front of them deserve a special place in hell.......s.
I’m rarely in a supermarket queue but on the extremely rare occasions that a new checkout has opened, if it gave me an advantage, I’ve moved to it, if one or two customers ahead of me didn’t move, that’s on them, they had the same opportunity as everyone else, if someone behind me got across before me, that’s on me for not moving quicker, no big deal.
I expect you grab the only seat on a bus/train, despite a pregnant woman, or someone with a stick also waiting.
Oh here we fking go again, it never fails in here laugh

Frank7

6,619 posts

87 months

Saturday 20th October 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
Frank7 said:
Moonhawk said:
DoubleD said:
Is it wrong that the person who has waited the longest goes first?
Those people who duck out the back of a queue when the checkout next door opens up, without offering it up to those in front of them deserve a special place in hell.......s.
I’m rarely in a supermarket queue but on the extremely rare occasions that a new checkout has opened, if it gave me an advantage, I’ve moved to it, if one or two customers ahead of me didn’t move, that’s on them, they had the same opportunity as everyone else, if someone behind me got across before me, that’s on me for not moving quicker, no big deal.
I expect you grab the only seat on a bus/train, despite a pregnant woman, or someone with a stick also waiting.
Then you expect wrong, if there was a seat available, at 78, I’d take it, but I don’t think that I’m entitled to get a seat, and I’d certainly offer my seat to a pregnant woman, or somebody who looked a tad infirm, whether they were older than me or not.
I very often don’t get a seat on the subway, and rarely do I get the offer from someone, but fortunately I’m in reasonable nick for an old ‘un, so it doesn’t bother me.

Cloudy147

2,722 posts

183 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Resurrection!

Petrol station visit tonight. "Right" side all full, so thought I'd try the "wrong" side, remembering some of the success on this thread. Parked carefully, got out and tested cable would reach before sticking my card in. That made the machine beepy and cross, but it reached.

So I paid... And then proceeded to stand in the freezing cold whilst my bks retreated up into my body whilst the sodding pump sprayed and clicked every few damn seconds. Guy behind had since joined, filled up and ready to go whilst I'm still chilling (literally). Spit, click, spit, click. Gave up at £50 (half way), and called it a day.

Will go back again later when it's less busy to fill up on the right side.

Never again.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

108 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Cloudy147 said:
Resurrection!

Petrol station visit tonight. "Right" side all full, so thought I'd try the "wrong" side, remembering some of the success on this thread. Parked carefully, got out and tested cable would reach before sticking my card in. That made the machine beepy and cross, but it reached.

So I paid... And then proceeded to stand in the freezing cold whilst my bks retreated up into my body whilst the sodding pump sprayed and clicked every few damn seconds. Guy behind had since joined, filled up and ready to go whilst I'm still chilling (literally). Spit, click, spit, click. Gave up at £50 (half way), and called it a day.

Will go back again later when it's less busy to fill up on the right side.

Never again.
Depends on the car I guess. Maybe some are tricky, but every time I have tried its been very easy.

FakeConcern

336 posts

137 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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DoubleD said:
Cloudy147 said:
Resurrection!

Petrol station visit tonight. "Right" side all full, so thought I'd try the "wrong" side, remembering some of the success on this thread. Parked carefully, got out and tested cable would reach before sticking my card in. That made the machine beepy and cross, but it reached.

So I paid... And then proceeded to stand in the freezing cold whilst my bks retreated up into my body whilst the sodding pump sprayed and clicked every few damn seconds. Guy behind had since joined, filled up and ready to go whilst I'm still chilling (literally). Spit, click, spit, click. Gave up at £50 (half way), and called it a day.

Will go back again later when it's less busy to fill up on the right side.

Never again.
Depends on the car I guess. Maybe some are tricky, but every time I have tried its been very easy.
That is strange! I've never had a problem on any car I've tried this with, not sure how many, but quite a few.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

201 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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FakeConcern said:
DoubleD said:
Cloudy147 said:
Resurrection!

Petrol station visit tonight. "Right" side all full, so thought I'd try the "wrong" side, remembering some of the success on this thread. Parked carefully, got out and tested cable would reach before sticking my card in. That made the machine beepy and cross, but it reached.

So I paid... And then proceeded to stand in the freezing cold whilst my bks retreated up into my body whilst the sodding pump sprayed and clicked every few damn seconds. Guy behind had since joined, filled up and ready to go whilst I'm still chilling (literally). Spit, click, spit, click. Gave up at £50 (half way), and called it a day.

Will go back again later when it's less busy to fill up on the right side.

Never again.
Depends on the car I guess. Maybe some are tricky, but every time I have tried its been very easy.
That is strange! I've never had a problem on any car I've tried this with, not sure how many, but quite a few.
^^^ This. I don’t even given it a second thought. I just go the shortest queue regardless of which side.

craigjm

17,956 posts

200 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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I use either side because my car has two fuel tanks. Love people’s faces when they are waiting behind me even though other pumps are empty and I get to 50 litres and take the nozzle out....

Then I go round to the other side and open the other filler and put in another 50 litres hehe

Pericoloso

44,044 posts

163 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Not sure if any of the following has been covered in 350 posts but.....

Local BP has signs reading.. "Extra long hose" for filling from the other side.

I've noticed some filling stations in mainland Europe have signs ,conveniently in multiple languages reading.....

"Do not move your car until you've paid "....or similar.

Also some use a booth and barrier system where you fill up and then drive to a booth to pay and then the barrier rises to

let you on your way.

Wooda80

1,743 posts

75 months

Monday 19th November 2018
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Can anyone tell me which is the right side to fuel this, please. The queue behind is getting impatient.....