RE: McLaren 12C MSO special: Review

RE: McLaren 12C MSO special: Review

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Raudus42

163 posts

134 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Or for half the money....

http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/McLAREN/12C/Midl...

Looks better too - that said I prefer the standard front end.

disco666

233 posts

147 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Davey S2 said:
How much would it cost for a half decent coach trimmer to cover roll over hoops in alcantara? couple of hundred quid?

Can't blame the company for offering these type of options but you'd have to be a very rich with no regard for value or just a bit thick and vacuous to order half that tat.

Just Halfords for the well heeled IMO.
This.
You don't get wealthy by wasting money.
There is a subtle difference between paying whatever it takes to get what you want, and wasting money.

The fact that you could achieve exactly the same effect for a lot less money suggests to me that some of these options fall into the latter category.
If you're rich enough to do it then good on you, but you will not win my respect by doing so. (Not that you will care, and I don't blame you).

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Donkey62 said:
Has the handling been resolved and predictable at the limit yet or have they just put a sticker on that as well?
Having watched the CH video of it drifting on-track I'd say yes.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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My 12c Looked like that on Forza 4, only it was lime green and the wheels were all black smile

raftom

1,197 posts

262 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Davey S2 said:
I think the point people are making is that the cost McLaren are retailing these parts for is massively out of line with what they cost to produce (and subjectively whether they do anything to improve the car).

I had the steering wheel and boss of my old Elise re trimmed in alcantara and I think it was about £100. It was a perfectly done job too. Does it really cost £2,900 to do a roll hoop?

Of course McLaren are happy. If you sold something at a mark up of several 100% you would be too.

If you ticked all of those options £112K is a lot of money for some shiney stuff that does nothing to improve the performance of the car.

And I suspect that you're wrong that most owners don't care about the money. Cars like this tend not to be kept for that long and they will take a complete and utter shafting come resale time. Great news for the subsequent owner though.

These are Veblen goods.

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Davey S2 said:
Boydie88 said:
Yes it is a lot of shiney stuff, but no one forces the customer to pick them? Key word is OPTIONAL. Don't want them, don't buy them. McLaren obviously believe they'll make money on them, it's up to the customer to buy them and the customer to deicide whether they want them, not the dreamers in this thread.
No one is saying otherwise. If they sell loads of those options well done McLaren.

It still doesn't alter the fact that the prices are a pi££ take.
Why? Something is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay? scratchchin

robinessex

11,062 posts

182 months

Friday 11th October 2013
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Quote from article

"It's not necessarily to our tastes," admits our MSO contact of the additions to this car while saying it does demonstrate just a small part of what can be done. One client, owner of two F1s and with a P1 on the way, has had five 12C 'High Sports' built to his own specification with additional aero including extended diffusers and other mods. His mates liked them so much he's having another five, with similar bits for his P1 too.

Can't possibly think of a comment on that !!!!!!!!!

senninha2

132 posts

182 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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AdamPT said:
Great car, p*sstake options list. Didn't realise Alcantara was 'performance enhancing'
Because its lighter than leather ....

whytheory

750 posts

147 months

Saturday 12th October 2013
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McLaren isn't making anyone have these options, if you don't want a £7,732 carbon bonnet don't have it!

No idea what all the rage is about, McLaren would be mad not to chase these sort of customers, they'd only be giving their money to tuning houses instead.

BelfastBoy

779 posts

161 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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robinessex said:
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"It's not necessarily to our tastes," admits our MSO contact of the additions to this car while saying it does demonstrate just a small part of what can be done. One client, owner of two F1s and with a P1 on the way, has had five 12C 'High Sports' built to his own specification with additional aero including extended diffusers and other mods. His mates liked them so much he's having another five, with similar bits for his P1 too.

Can't possibly think of a comment on that !!!!!!!!!
I just can't imagine being so rich, so bored, so removed from reality that I'd even consider doing such a thing. That person has more McLarens than there's days in the week and yet that's probably still not enough. His money, his choice, fair enough.

bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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Article said:
One client, owner of two F1s and with a P1 on the way, has had five 12C 'High Sports' built to his own specification with additional aero including extended diffusers and other mods. His mates liked them so much he's having another five, with similar bits for his P1 too.
eek

Can't imagine what bespoke trim/body panels would cost for a P1!!!

I like this a lot better than the standard car, except for the exposed carbon bonnet and color-coded interior bits. Though I'm not usually a fan of orange paint on cars, is there really any other colour a McLaren should be than Papaya?

I'd love one, and if I could afford the Macca, then I'd also have a 458 Speciale for balance. Why not? biggrin

As for the options being ludicrously overpriced, they are, but I don't think MSO's targeted customers would care. The market will dictate whether they are overpriced (from the standpoint of the actual customer, as opposed to the peasants like me and other commenters). I mean, if you are a multi-millionaire/billionaire, what's a few thousand extra on your $300,000 car? As others have said, you don't have to get all the options, that's why they're called options! If I were in the position, I'd simply have the Papaya paint and the MSO front bumper/splitter.


bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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someday said:
What is the bonnet on the standard car made out of?
Good question! I was under the assumption that the whole car is carbon (well, the tub and bodypanels. I know the front and rear subframes are aluminium).

I'd wager a guess that it means exposed carbon, meaning you're paying £7,732 for them to leave off some of your £6,000 paint!!! biggrin

Sway

26,290 posts

195 months

Sunday 13th October 2013
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bobberz said:
I'd wager a guess that it means exposed carbon, meaning you're paying £7,732 for them to leave off some of your £6,000 paint!!! biggrin
That may well be the case, in which case the amount of labour and the part rejection rate will be vastly higher.

Getting twill perfectly lined up is an art form.