RE: Audi RS4 (B7): PH Buying Guide
Discussion
ks.Love mine! Had it for far longer than any other car I've owned and I've done around 80K miles in it. It's not the cheapest to run but it's never left me stranded and has worn very well cosmetically, both outside and in.
Surprised at some of the negative comments on here but probably those who slate the driving experience are the "ten tenth" speed freaks who favour track driving over road driving. Fair enough. Personally I'm more of an "eight tenths" type of driver who occasionally pushes it to nine! And I absolutely love the way it drives and handles on the road.
I think one of the major aspects of the B7 RS4 is it's versatility and all-weather capabilities. In this respect it has very few peers.
I originally traded in a 997 C2S for the RS4 and not once did I regret the change. I found the RS4 was nearly as quick as makes no difference (and quicker in the rain!) and had more character. In an ideal world one would have an RS4 and a smaller, lighter and more focussed sports car. But if more than one car is not an option, the RS4 would get my vote every time.
Surprised at some of the negative comments on here but probably those who slate the driving experience are the "ten tenth" speed freaks who favour track driving over road driving. Fair enough. Personally I'm more of an "eight tenths" type of driver who occasionally pushes it to nine! And I absolutely love the way it drives and handles on the road.
I think one of the major aspects of the B7 RS4 is it's versatility and all-weather capabilities. In this respect it has very few peers.
I originally traded in a 997 C2S for the RS4 and not once did I regret the change. I found the RS4 was nearly as quick as makes no difference (and quicker in the rain!) and had more character. In an ideal world one would have an RS4 and a smaller, lighter and more focussed sports car. But if more than one car is not an option, the RS4 would get my vote every time.
The B6 S4 is an often overlooked alternative to the B7 RS4.
Same base engine without the coking issues running around 340bhp - not far off a coked up Rs4, practically speaking.
Great spec, similar interior.
Up rate the ARBs and handling is as good, plus it doesn't have the problematic DRC.
Cheaper, although not quite the road presence.
Same base engine without the coking issues running around 340bhp - not far off a coked up Rs4, practically speaking.
Great spec, similar interior.
Up rate the ARBs and handling is as good, plus it doesn't have the problematic DRC.
Cheaper, although not quite the road presence.
Edited by sulli on Saturday 9th November 08:37
Personally speaking I love the RS4, mind you If I were to have one I'd think about modding and removing the DRC as it is known as a problem.
Quite interesting to see RobM77 being his usual 'fingers in his ears' attitude to other peoples opinions. Much like the IoM TT time debate, its fair enough to have strong opinions, that is your right but to have no reasoning or no ability to even accept others viewpoints makes you far too bloody minded and impossible to debate with.
Far too many people with overriding opinion to the contrary, kind of proves this.
Quite interesting to see RobM77 being his usual 'fingers in his ears' attitude to other peoples opinions. Much like the IoM TT time debate, its fair enough to have strong opinions, that is your right but to have no reasoning or no ability to even accept others viewpoints makes you far too bloody minded and impossible to debate with.
Far too many people with overriding opinion to the contrary, kind of proves this.
RemyMartin said:
Personally speaking I love the RS4, mind you If I were to have one I'd think about modding and removing the DRC as it is known as a problem.
Most people don't as it was replaced under warranty for 5 years, and new revised parts are much more reliable, oh and it works superbly well£250 per tyre. 21mpg. Expensive to run. I personally think it just looks like an old 08 plate audi now that isn't that special.
Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
jonah35 said:
£250 per tyre. 21mpg. Expensive to run. I personally think it just looks like an old 08 plate audi now that isn't that special.
Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
I think someone would be making a mistake using one as a weekend car. Cars like this have such a breadth of abilities they make more sense as a daily driver in a 'one car only' situation. Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
Patrick Bateman said:
jonah35 said:
£250 per tyre. 21mpg. Expensive to run. I personally think it just looks like an old 08 plate audi now that isn't that special.
Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
I think someone would be making a mistake using one as a weekend car. Cars like this have such a breadth of abilities they make more sense as a daily driver in a 'one car only' situation. Depreciation may not be too bad but there are a lot out there.
They do sound lovely but I cant see the point in fast cars on the roads anymore as you cant use the speed and I think there are better track cars.
Perhaps I'm showing my age (I am) but surely a just a reasonably quick petrol or diesel model would suit our roads and the commute. As a weekend car its not special enough to me.
ads_green said:
Not bad for a coked up under steering dog of a car 
That's very impressive.I suppose cars are up to spec when new, and then some are affected dependant on driving style, fuel, condition. An Audi specific forum has an interesting thread running.
http://forum.rs246.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=10...
ads_green said:
Amirhussain said:
ChrisRS6 said:
Can someone post the lap times for the B7 RS4 around the top gear track?
I believe it's quite a time??
Chris
01:25.7, E90 M3 did a 01:25.3 though....I believe it's quite a time??
Chris
Amirhussain said:
The B7 RS4 is my all time favourite Audi, would have one over an R8 any day of the week, not liking the loss of power though....
I do think its over played - plenty other cars of the same time suffer (I've seen stories on mini, 911 and other forums).There's an interesting journalist time in a 15k press car on the 'ring that suggests the power thing isn't as bad.
Grandfondo said:
Have they cured the coking issue with the new RS4?
Tricky - It's the same engine as the RS5 and apparently the effects are less pronounced.I believe much of the carbon in the B7 RS4 comes from aggressive intake valve opening to allow internal exhaust gas recirculation.
So instead of a solenoid controlled pipe to redirect combustion exhaust back into the intake, the engine simply opens the intake valves early so some of the exhaust gas enters the intake system and is then drawn back into the cylinder along with the fresh air.
Quite a nice system as it's re-using the existing variable valve tech but without any fuel cleaning the valves carbon is inevitable.
I would expect the timing of the internal EGR has been tweaked along with changes to the running temperature as it's been found hotter engines suffer less. It'll never be perfect though. The only way you can really get it perfect is to go for a system like Toyota where their direct injection engines also have a separate indirect fuel injector and the system is balanced so that under normal conditions the indirect injector fires every now and then to wash the valves.
drcarrera said:
Love mine! Had it for far longer than any other car I've owned and I've done around 80K miles in it. It's not the cheapest to run but it's never left me stranded and has worn very well cosmetically, both outside and in.
Surprised at some of the negative comments on here but probably those who slate the driving experience are the "ten tenth" speed freaks who favour track driving over road driving. Fair enough. Personally I'm more of an "eight tenths" type of driver who occasionally pushes it to nine! And I absolutely love the way it drives and handles on the road.
I think one of the major aspects of the B7 RS4 is it's versatility and all-weather capabilities. In this respect it has very few peers.
I originally traded in a 997 C2S for the RS4 and not once did I regret the change. I found the RS4 was nearly as quick as makes no difference (and quicker in the rain!) and had more character. In an ideal world one would have an RS4 and a smaller, lighter and more focussed sports car. But if more than one car is not an option, the RS4 would get my vote every time.
Do you have any more details on the comparison between the two?Surprised at some of the negative comments on here but probably those who slate the driving experience are the "ten tenth" speed freaks who favour track driving over road driving. Fair enough. Personally I'm more of an "eight tenths" type of driver who occasionally pushes it to nine! And I absolutely love the way it drives and handles on the road.
I think one of the major aspects of the B7 RS4 is it's versatility and all-weather capabilities. In this respect it has very few peers.
I originally traded in a 997 C2S for the RS4 and not once did I regret the change. I found the RS4 was nearly as quick as makes no difference (and quicker in the rain!) and had more character. In an ideal world one would have an RS4 and a smaller, lighter and more focussed sports car. But if more than one car is not an option, the RS4 would get my vote every time.
I am deliberating over a 997 C4s as a daily driver. I'm coming from an A5 2.0 T Quattro. A great all rounder is what I'm after and with the weather and roads in Northern Ireland being poo, I'm a bit of an AWD convert.
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