RE: Toyota's turbo future

RE: Toyota's turbo future

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Ved

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3,825 posts

176 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Sampaio said:
A hot Yaris? No thank you!
A hot Yaris would be a good thing. I think the last one looked the part in T-Sport form. It just lacked the grunt for a hot supermini.

addzGU

60 posts

139 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Talking a few years ago, my Glanza V Turbo surpised a lot of non Jap cars, that's for sure.

V8 Armchair

26 posts

175 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Any excuse....


Alex Langheck

835 posts

130 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Ved said:
Sampaio said:
A hot Yaris? No thank you!
A hot Yaris would be a good thing. I think the last one looked the part in T-Sport form. It just lacked the grunt for a hot supermini.
The rumours of a Toyota WRC return tend to suggest the Yaris is the car they would use, with a 1.6T engine.......

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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I've always wanted a two Jay-Z with NAS...

FestivAli

1,092 posts

239 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Toyota DID recently launch a turbo petrol - it's called the Yaris Turbo GRNM (Gazoo Racing Nurburgring Meister). http://www.caradvice.com.au/245586/toyota-yaris-tu...

According to the article it has 112kw (about 150hp) and 206nm (don't know what that is in ft lbs) so it's not quite in fiesta st territory but would do alright against the DS3 turbo.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

234 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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It's strange, 3SGTE in a GT4 works well. In the Mr2 it just seemed wrong for an MR layout.

Be interesting to see what they do, if they do but the less old school peaky turbo it is the better from a proper driving point of view.

2JZ benefitted from the big engine to spin up the turbos quickly.

Was there not rumour of a new Supra coming from Toyota?

Mr E

21,631 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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V8 Armchair said:
Any excuse....

Oh go on then.



Good car that one.

iloveboost

1,531 posts

163 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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PunterCam said:
An engine from a better time of turbos though... When turbos were turbos, and didn't pretend to be naturally aspirated! These new turbos are just too soulless, and their existence in a model line up means there's no need for an interesting/slightly exotic engine for the quick versions.
Do you not like any change at all?
I think all drivers don't want an engine to feel laggy or turbocharged except some petrolheads who think lag adds character. I drive a no soul diesel engine the only characterful part of that unit *is* the old school lag then punch as the turbo kicks in. I drove a 2011 320d recently and the engine is better than mine in every single way. Throttle response was a bit slower than I'd like but that's the way BMW tune the fly by wire. Point is 99% of ordinary drivers don't want any noticeable lag. If I could have the same engine in my car with no lag I'd take it, it would make driving it easier and smoother. Then it really would be a completely characterless engine tho.

Walter Sobchak

5,723 posts

225 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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I always wanted a GT4 when I was about 18 but couldn't afford to buy one, yet alone the insurance, I'm off to the classifieds I bet their expensive now.

Mr E

21,631 posts

260 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Walter Sobchak said:
I always wanted a GT4 when I was about 18 but couldn't afford to buy one, yet alone the insurance, I'm off to the classifieds I bet their expensive now.
Very inexpensive last time I looked.

gavmobile

159 posts

213 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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Mr E said:
Very inexpensive last time I looked.
They certainly are. They are getting into winter shed money but a winter shed with 250bhp and 4wd. I know next to nothing about these cars but there are a couple of tidy looking examples for £2500, a few more around £3500 although not sure what makes the others more valuable.

What are they actually like to drive compared to similar era 'grale for instance?

gazchap

1,523 posts

184 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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V8 Armchair said:
Any excuse....
Go on then, you've twisted my arm...


KMB

254 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Ved said:
JonathanLegard said:
Ved said:
KMB said:
I very much enjoyed my old Rev 3 MR2 Turbo's engine, which I think was pretty much the same as GT-4 Celica (minus the bigger intercooler maybe).

It would be good to see them giving us something with some power!
Yep exactly the same give or take a part just swapped around 180 degrees. One of the best engines to come out of Japan for reliability too and was produced from 89 to into the last decade in various forms. Quite a solid little thing smile
It's a Yamaha unit, isn't it?
The 3S series was yes. As was the V10 in the LFA as I recall.
A very well respected mechanic worked on mine when it went in for turbo replacement, apparently a pig of a job due to access on the MR2, but his words were that the engine was one of the most bulletproof that he knew. He reckoned the block reinforcement, strength and head design was nothing short of engineering brilliance!

I think mine was 245bhp standard but it was fairly easy to get another reliable 30-40bhp for pocket change. Those were the days.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

234 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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The blocks are good if left at normal levels and looked after.

These days though, they tend to have been un cared for, for a number of years.

Then there's the hose from hell frown