RE: Ford Fiesta ST vs Renault Clio RS200
Discussion
usualdog said:
Funny you mention the specific make & model of tyre used by the Renault, but not the Ford. Clearly this is in the public interest and nothing to do with your link-up with said tyre firm.
Actually it's because the Dunlop is a specific listed upgrade included as part of the Cup chassis package. 
Cheers,
Dan
Dan Trent said:
Thanks for feedback - anyone else got any feelings on this?
It's a production-based instinct from where we link to other articles that you might want to refer to but wouldn't necessarily want to leave the page you're on. And consistent too - any regular user of the site will know that clicking a link will, as a rule, open a new window/tab. And if you're referring to and fro personally I find it easier to have multiple tabs open.
I guess it's a case of personal browsing preferences and habits but the motivation for doing it this way is to get away from an off-putting wall of text and allow folk to navigate to the bits they want to read as and when they want.
As I say though, feedback always welcome.
Cheers,
Dan
Always disliked this set up, call it laziness but I usually don't bother clicking the other pages, particularly as you have to 'return to base' to go to the comments. One nice long scrolling page would be far better. It's even more frustrating on a tablet than a PC.It's a production-based instinct from where we link to other articles that you might want to refer to but wouldn't necessarily want to leave the page you're on. And consistent too - any regular user of the site will know that clicking a link will, as a rule, open a new window/tab. And if you're referring to and fro personally I find it easier to have multiple tabs open.
I guess it's a case of personal browsing preferences and habits but the motivation for doing it this way is to get away from an off-putting wall of text and allow folk to navigate to the bits they want to read as and when they want.
As I say though, feedback always welcome.
Cheers,
Dan
I always assumed it was a click/page impressions thing like this horrid sites that have you needlessly clicking every paragraph to see the next bit, which in my book is automatically a bad thing.
Nurburgsingh said:
I dont know which is more ridiculous...
A £17.5K Ford Fiesta or a £19K Clio...
The world has gone mental
Sigh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InflationA £17.5K Ford Fiesta or a £19K Clio...
The world has gone mental
When is this Golden Age when cars were meant to be more affordable, exactly?
25 years ago? A 1988 review of an Astra GTE 16V puts its list price at £11,776 which This Is Money's inflation calculator says is around £26,762 in 2013 pounds.
Before you say the Astra is a different segment it's about the same size than the Clio or ST. Besides, even the Nova GTE was £8,185 in 1988, equivalent to £18,600 in 2013.
Quelle surprise!
Cars have never been more capable or better value for money. Fact.
Can we please stop the whinging whenever new car prices are mentioned?
Edited by loudlashadjuster on Thursday 28th November 07:30
Technomatt said:
Even current Clio 200 owners have sussed it's a dud and are migrating to the Fiesta ST.
Mmmmm... Some maybe but it's just not hardcore enough for me personally. The price of the Clio is ridiculous, I didn't know it was that much, I've not shown any interest in it since it was launched due to the gearbox, weight and looks. 
loudlashadjuster said:
Nurburgsingh said:
I dont know which is more ridiculous...
A £17.5K Ford Fiesta or a £19K Clio...
The world has gone mental
Sigh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InflationA £17.5K Ford Fiesta or a £19K Clio...
The world has gone mental
When is this Golden Age when cars were meant to be more affordable, exactly?
25 years ago? A 1988 review of an Astra GTE 16V puts its list price at £11,776 which This Is Money's inflation calculator says is around £26,762 in 2013 pounds.
Before you say the Astra is a different segment it's about the same size than the Clio or ST. Besides, even the Nova GTE was £8,185 in 1988, equivalent to £18,600 in 2013.
Quelle surprise!
Cars have never been more capable or better value for money. Fact.
Can we please stop the whinging whenever new car prices are mentioned?
Edited by loudlashadjuster on Thursday 28th November 07:30
Welcome to last week. The verdict on these two has alreday been delivered ad nauseum for the Fiesta.
I prefer the looks of the Renault but would probably go for the Fiesta simply because it costs less and will doubtless have better deals. Then again, I would probably buy a used R32 instead.
I prefer the looks of the Renault but would probably go for the Fiesta simply because it costs less and will doubtless have better deals. Then again, I would probably buy a used R32 instead.
TNH said:
Dan Trent said:
Thanks for feedback - anyone else got any feelings on this?
It's a production-based instinct from where we link to other articles that you might want to refer to but wouldn't necessarily want to leave the page you're on. And consistent too - any regular user of the site will know that clicking a link will, as a rule, open a new window/tab. And if you're referring to and fro personally I find it easier to have multiple tabs open.
I guess it's a case of personal browsing preferences and habits but the motivation for doing it this way is to get away from an off-putting wall of text and allow folk to navigate to the bits they want to read as and when they want.
As I say though, feedback always welcome.
Cheers,
Dan
Same comment from me, personally, I find it really frustrating when links open in a new window and I would much rather just be sent straight through to the next page in the same tab.It's a production-based instinct from where we link to other articles that you might want to refer to but wouldn't necessarily want to leave the page you're on. And consistent too - any regular user of the site will know that clicking a link will, as a rule, open a new window/tab. And if you're referring to and fro personally I find it easier to have multiple tabs open.
I guess it's a case of personal browsing preferences and habits but the motivation for doing it this way is to get away from an off-putting wall of text and allow folk to navigate to the bits they want to read as and when they want.
As I say though, feedback always welcome.
Cheers,
Dan
If you want to open in a new tab its ctrl + click which allows you to keep the original page open.
personal preference obviously.
Echoing some of the other comments, I prefer links within a given site to open in the same window. That said I would probably have Classifieds open as new tab because it is different content all together - being able to switch between a buying guide and Classifieds is very useful.
One final thing whilst on the subject of the articles - can the pictures be arranged as a gallery, starting on the picture clicked on (like in Classifieds)? Opening to a picture in the top left corner of a blank page is vintage internet, but not particularly user friendly if viewing on a mobile device. At the very least a double tap on picture should maximise it to screen width, instead of having to pinch zoom, scroll left...
Mal
Froomee said:
I paid just over £10k for new Fiesta ST in 2006 and just under £11k in 2008 for an ST500........
That's great, but no-one was talking invoice cost, just list price, and who ever pays that on cars like these?BTW the list price for both of those cars equates to about £17k today, cheaper than the equivalent Renaultsport models but that is as expected given the power and capability deficit of the older Fords.
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