RE: Don't demonise the Carrera GT: PH Blog
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How many young men have died on the worlds roads over the years, by overstretching a sports car or motorbike, for no other reason than the sheer thrill it gave them?. Yes, many thousands.It will continue long after hyper cars cease to exist. Look at the scenario, 2 young guys, a very fast car, an appreciative audience, a sure fire recipe for a potential disaster, and some Hollywood style showing off.
I have to say this is totally acceptable. I have driver controls on my company car (VDO) which I get a beep when I drive too fast, when I break too hard, when I accelerate too hard.
I still have plenty of fun, it's made me much more aware. I can still wing around hair pin bends etc with the bum out of joint. But, I have the knowledge that the Satalite tracking watches me and I have to be a good boy. (I can still scare my passengers).
I still have plenty of fun, it's made me much more aware. I can still wing around hair pin bends etc with the bum out of joint. But, I have the knowledge that the Satalite tracking watches me and I have to be a good boy. (I can still scare my passengers).
Garlick said:
BlimeyCharlie said:
So even with Rod Hull playing it safe and going for the safe option of a house with no stairs (it was a bungalow) he then fell off the roof.
Brilliant analogy 
What sits in the corner and goes Ssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?
Rod Hull's TV.
Carry on.
Very well said Chris. The recent backlash against the Carrera GT is an unusual thing - it's as if the car was being driven at 30mph, then suddenly veered itself into a lamp post and burst into flames. The reality is that the driver of the CGT clearly had decided to utilise some of its performance in a totally inappropriate place, and very sadly him and his passenger both died as a result.
I equate it to someone with a loaded shotgun who chooses to point it at themselves whilst banging it off the ground - there's plenty of safe ways of handling a shotgun, but there's also plenty of ways that you can choose to handle it that are infinitely more likely to kill you. Ban shotgun ownership because if used in an unsafe manner, you can kill youself? Not really.
As above, personal responsibility is key - all the facts point to the driver choosing to drive a car in an unsafe manner, and sadly paying the price for that choice.
I equate it to someone with a loaded shotgun who chooses to point it at themselves whilst banging it off the ground - there's plenty of safe ways of handling a shotgun, but there's also plenty of ways that you can choose to handle it that are infinitely more likely to kill you. Ban shotgun ownership because if used in an unsafe manner, you can kill youself? Not really.
As above, personal responsibility is key - all the facts point to the driver choosing to drive a car in an unsafe manner, and sadly paying the price for that choice.
'Shurv' is right.
One of my earliest car memories is being out on my bike, then seeing a car cartwheeling down the street, shedding bodies.
8 people in a 5 seater. One a girl (dead on impact) whose parents had only let her out for first time!
Youthful energy/testosterone writ large....and dead.
One of my earliest car memories is being out on my bike, then seeing a car cartwheeling down the street, shedding bodies.
8 people in a 5 seater. One a girl (dead on impact) whose parents had only let her out for first time!
Youthful energy/testosterone writ large....and dead.
I'm going to open a can of worms here.
As I wasn't going fast, neither I nor my friend were hurt. But I was seriously out of pocket.
Would I do it again? Absolutely. Would I have some advanced driving lessons before doing so? Most certainly.
Fast and Furious, Chris Harris, ect. They all inspire a desire to drive like a tit, have a giggle and get a rush out of your car. I can pretty much guarantee that everyone on this website drives quite dangerously, quite often. More often then not I would hope everyone here limits the danger to themselves and not any 3rd parties.
So there you have it. I have been completely drawn into the world of fast cars, racing and motor vehicles by movies and other such vessels. Mr Harris, I would probably put a third of the blame on you, because you make it look so fun.
Its still absolutely, 100 percent my fault that I might have binned a car in the past *diferent country and private road, remember. So don't let any motoring journalist's try and interfere with your splendid work.
- This was on a different continent and may have been a private road.
As I wasn't going fast, neither I nor my friend were hurt. But I was seriously out of pocket.
Would I do it again? Absolutely. Would I have some advanced driving lessons before doing so? Most certainly.
Fast and Furious, Chris Harris, ect. They all inspire a desire to drive like a tit, have a giggle and get a rush out of your car. I can pretty much guarantee that everyone on this website drives quite dangerously, quite often. More often then not I would hope everyone here limits the danger to themselves and not any 3rd parties.
So there you have it. I have been completely drawn into the world of fast cars, racing and motor vehicles by movies and other such vessels. Mr Harris, I would probably put a third of the blame on you, because you make it look so fun.
Its still absolutely, 100 percent my fault that I might have binned a car in the past *diferent country and private road, remember. So don't let any motoring journalist's try and interfere with your splendid work.
Rich A said:
Are you really suggesting electronically limited performance based on GPS location? That's not a policy I would advocate.
I have to agree. All that will do is move the accidents to another location and possible create even more of them (drivers might get used to the car in town, being able to "floor it" and then the GPS lets them off the leash and bingo, one ditch finding missile!When it comes to cars, and their "control" the Venn diagram shows only two "safe" areas, which are i believe :
1) Completely automatic autonomous cars
and
2) Completely driver controlled cars.
All the other overlapping areas are a recipe for disaster, and allow yet more people to blame anything but themselves.
It confuses me that they are blaming videos of cars going sideways in a cloud of smoke as cause for accidents. Lest we forget that Paul Walker himself was the star of the fast and furious franchise. Which in my eyes seems to glorify street racing! Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of the F&F franchise. But I didn't watch them or any other videos such as Chris' and want to head out and try 70 mile and hour drifts round my local streets
I agree, but it doesn't matter though. The GP have never heard of you nor have the tabloids and those spanners at the DM they'll completely ignore you and go and quote the great Omnipotent Clarksonian instead.
Its the bloody mass media we need to castrate to level the Knowledge base. "If its on the internet it must be true" adage. Further to this I've always said you can design the most intelligent product in the world but you'll never design out users stupidity.
On another note the spike on the steering wheel idea I've mentioned it before, on hearing it from a friend, i thought it was a bloody genius idea (Joke)
Its the bloody mass media we need to castrate to level the Knowledge base. "If its on the internet it must be true" adage. Further to this I've always said you can design the most intelligent product in the world but you'll never design out users stupidity.
On another note the spike on the steering wheel idea I've mentioned it before, on hearing it from a friend, i thought it was a bloody genius idea (Joke)
great post apart from this
Modern cars are GPS equipped and have clever ECUs. Why can't they be restricted in urban areas - not totally neutered, but allowed to deliver just enough drama to satisfy the owner, but not enough to cause a shunt?
that's a very slippery slope and given that politicians all appear to be spineless and u turn quicker than a dropped hat this would be turned on everywhere after a "wont somebody think of the children" campaign by the muppets at brake and the daily fail
Modern cars are GPS equipped and have clever ECUs. Why can't they be restricted in urban areas - not totally neutered, but allowed to deliver just enough drama to satisfy the owner, but not enough to cause a shunt?
that's a very slippery slope and given that politicians all appear to be spineless and u turn quicker than a dropped hat this would be turned on everywhere after a "wont somebody think of the children" campaign by the muppets at brake and the daily fail
Nail on the head here Monkey.
I drive my wifes X5 M-Sport a LOT quicker than my BMW 1M!
Reminds me a lot about the headlines about 'KILLER ROADS' and i've still never seen a stretch of tarmac actually kill anyone! No matter the car, power or road ultimately it comes down to the driver (aka the nut behind the wheel).
I drive my wifes X5 M-Sport a LOT quicker than my BMW 1M!
Reminds me a lot about the headlines about 'KILLER ROADS' and i've still never seen a stretch of tarmac actually kill anyone! No matter the car, power or road ultimately it comes down to the driver (aka the nut behind the wheel).
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