RE: Impreza 22B STI: Time For Coffee?
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Stunning cars. The closest I ever got was a p1 back in the day. People forget what a giant killer reputation the classic shape Subaru had back in the 90's, there was very little to touch them with the escort cosworth being expensive and more in the hands of ford nuts, the delta integrale no longer made and slightly more fragile. No 200+ horse hot hatches on every street corner back then.
Terminator X said:
LOL, perhaps it's all the UK reg'd 22B's rather than just the "proper" UK ones then
Yeah, I assume its the JDM cars that have been imported have been registered as Type UK's. You are correct about the meaning of "22B". They also get the facts about the WRC/WRCars completely arse-about-face in that video!
I saw one of these at a dealer outside Dorking back int he day up for sale at £50k, I test drove a black wrx from the dealer at that blew me away but the look of the 22b was just awesome, a proper rally car for the road, liek the rs200 Delta et al.
Yes the performance has been superceeded but it is now old technology but what a look.
Yes the performance has been superceeded but it is now old technology but what a look.
A chap I know in my village has one of these, it's not got it's original block and it's been rebuilt (engine wise). He also claimed to me it was the very last one built for the uk market. He bought it from sombody in Wales. It looks pretty tidy.
I said to him on Saturday, what's it worth and I notionally said to him, about £10k? He said 'about that'!!! Hmmm....should I make him an offer? Or, was he trying not to punch me out by agreeing?
I said to him on Saturday, what's it worth and I notionally said to him, about £10k? He said 'about that'!!! Hmmm....should I make him an offer? Or, was he trying not to punch me out by agreeing?
300bhp/ton said:
It's a cool car for sure. But just too pricey and too limited edition to really appeal properly to anyone other than wealthy collectors.
Surely a drivers Impreza of this era would be an STI Version 6 or similar, maybe a Type R or RA variant.
I think the idea was that it was to appeal to serious collectors/die hard Impreza fans as it was circa £40k brand new. The 22B had the Type R chassis IIRC with the additon of an adjustable rear spoiler and WRC fenders, the models you mention are no doubt superb Impreza's (arguably amongst the greatest Impreza's ever) but IMO the 22B will always be regarded as the ultimate driver's Impreza. Surely a drivers Impreza of this era would be an STI Version 6 or similar, maybe a Type R or RA variant.
I lodged deposits on two in Japan before they were officially announced.
The first car was at EVO magazines launch party and was featured in issue 1 of Evo (and more photos in subsequent issues). That car was later heavily modified and ended up going to the USA and competing in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb. Its still in the USA as far as I know.
This car was subjected to dyno testing before modification and I know others were tested and all had give or take 280bhp, and road testers who were convinced it had 350bhp were confusing power for torque.
Car 2 followed some weeks later and was kept standard.
The first car was at EVO magazines launch party and was featured in issue 1 of Evo (and more photos in subsequent issues). That car was later heavily modified and ended up going to the USA and competing in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb. Its still in the USA as far as I know.
This car was subjected to dyno testing before modification and I know others were tested and all had give or take 280bhp, and road testers who were convinced it had 350bhp were confusing power for torque.
Car 2 followed some weeks later and was kept standard.
What a thouroughly nice chap!.
I'm still drooling (over the car that is) easily my dream car up there with the P1 and RB5. A true timeless classic, unmistakably Japanese and unmistakably an homologated rally car. Distinctive and special yet instantly recognisable.
If i won the lottery this would be right at the top of my list. I will be a sad man if i die without at least owning a classic turbo Impreza at least once in my life.
I'm still drooling (over the car that is) easily my dream car up there with the P1 and RB5. A true timeless classic, unmistakably Japanese and unmistakably an homologated rally car. Distinctive and special yet instantly recognisable.
If i won the lottery this would be right at the top of my list. I will be a sad man if i die without at least owning a classic turbo Impreza at least once in my life.
mazdaman1980 said:
Lovely, classic scooby but the Evo 6 Makkinen edition was far superior. Overrated by scooby nuts to get this iconic status which I'm not sure it deserves. I'm sure many will argue that but hey ho.
That's missing the point though and you could make the same point about any iconic car - there will always be something superior on another car. Desirability doesn't just depend on facts and figures, BHP and 0-60 times. Character and history comes into it as well and the scooby has those in spades.mdavids said:
mazdaman1980 said:
Lovely, classic scooby but the Evo 6 Makkinen edition was far superior. Overrated by scooby nuts to get this iconic status which I'm not sure it deserves. I'm sure many will argue that but hey ho.
That's missing the point though and you could make the same point about any iconic car - there will always be something superior on another car. Desirability doesn't just depend on facts and figures, BHP and 0-60 times. Character and history comes into it as well and the scooby has those in spades.mazdaman1980 said:
That's fine and I partly accept your point, but I don't drive history. And character doesn't always make for a great car. Don't get me wrong, I like Imprezas but I can't accept that this car is £20,000+ better than a second hand STI.
You need to accept it, it's fact. It's a modern classic. Just like the Escort Cosworth and NSX, the 22B will continue to rise in value as people of that generation come into money. 22b's have always been solid investment, where as you could get a Cossie for around 10k about 5 years ago, I've never seen a 22b under 15k in over 10 years following their priceGassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff