RE: Impreza 22B STI: Time For Coffee?

RE: Impreza 22B STI: Time For Coffee?

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GC8

19,910 posts

191 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Blame International Motors. Subaru are still popular in Japan.

GregorFuk

563 posts

201 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Terminator X said:
He cocked up the 22b thing, it's actually Hex for 555 teacher

TX.
I thought 22 = 2.2, B = Bilstiens.

irish boy

3,535 posts

237 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Stunning cars. The closest I ever got was a p1 back in the day. People forget what a giant killer reputation the classic shape Subaru had back in the 90's, there was very little to touch them with the escort cosworth being expensive and more in the hands of ford nuts, the delta integrale no longer made and slightly more fragile. No 200+ horse hot hatches on every street corner back then.

Dr G

15,195 posts

243 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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BHP have one on for 28...

rossub

4,464 posts

191 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Terminator X said:
LOL, perhaps it's all the UK reg'd 22B's rather than just the "proper" UK ones then scratchchin

TX.
Some grey import bog standard Imprezas were registered as 22Bs, so the figure on How many left is utterly useless.


tbtstt

215 posts

182 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Terminator X said:
LOL, perhaps it's all the UK reg'd 22B's rather than just the "proper" UK ones then scratchchin
Yeah, I assume its the JDM cars that have been imported have been registered as Type UK's.

You are correct about the meaning of "22B". They also get the facts about the WRC/WRCars completely arse-about-face in that video!

garypotter

1,506 posts

151 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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I saw one of these at a dealer outside Dorking back int he day up for sale at £50k, I test drove a black wrx from the dealer at that blew me away but the look of the 22b was just awesome, a proper rally car for the road, liek the rs200 Delta et al.

Yes the performance has been superceeded but it is now old technology but what a look.

GregorFuk

563 posts

201 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Dr G said:
BHP have one on for 28...
No they don't, they are just rubbish at updating their website.

Nors

1,291 posts

156 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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A chap I know in my village has one of these, it's not got it's original block and it's been rebuilt (engine wise). He also claimed to me it was the very last one built for the uk market. He bought it from sombody in Wales. It looks pretty tidy.

I said to him on Saturday, what's it worth and I notionally said to him, about £10k? He said 'about that'!!! Hmmm....should I make him an offer? Or, was he trying not to punch me out by agreeing?


melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Epic car, super rare and IMO it deserves to have the same recognition as the E30 M3, Integrale etc... easily in my top 5 cars to drive on my favourite road.

mazdaman1980

140 posts

205 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Lovely, classic scooby but the Evo 6 Makkinen edition was far superior. Overrated by scooby nuts to get this iconic status which I'm not sure it deserves. I'm sure many will argue that but hey ho.

freshmicropig

247 posts

150 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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I feel like I've read this article several times already this year.

melvster

6,841 posts

186 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
It's a cool car for sure. But just too pricey and too limited edition to really appeal properly to anyone other than wealthy collectors.

Surely a drivers Impreza of this era would be an STI Version 6 or similar, maybe a Type R or RA variant.
I think the idea was that it was to appeal to serious collectors/die hard Impreza fans as it was circa £40k brand new. The 22B had the Type R chassis IIRC with the additon of an adjustable rear spoiler and WRC fenders, the models you mention are no doubt superb Impreza's (arguably amongst the greatest Impreza's ever) but IMO the 22B will always be regarded as the ultimate driver's Impreza.

norwichphoto

975 posts

225 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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I lodged deposits on two in Japan before they were officially announced.

The first car was at EVO magazines launch party and was featured in issue 1 of Evo (and more photos in subsequent issues). That car was later heavily modified and ended up going to the USA and competing in the Pikes Peak Hill Climb. Its still in the USA as far as I know.

This car was subjected to dyno testing before modification and I know others were tested and all had give or take 280bhp, and road testers who were convinced it had 350bhp were confusing power for torque.

Car 2 followed some weeks later and was kept standard.

Andy ap

1,147 posts

173 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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What a thouroughly nice chap!.

I'm still drooling (over the car that is) easily my dream car up there with the P1 and RB5. A true timeless classic, unmistakably Japanese and unmistakably an homologated rally car. Distinctive and special yet instantly recognisable.

If i won the lottery this would be right at the top of my list. I will be a sad man if i die without at least owning a classic turbo Impreza at least once in my life.

Jitstar

92 posts

169 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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So weird you mention the 22B....one was following me for 30/40 minutes following the weekend's SS....only one I've seen in the metal....looked fantastic!

mdavids

675 posts

185 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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mazdaman1980 said:
Lovely, classic scooby but the Evo 6 Makkinen edition was far superior. Overrated by scooby nuts to get this iconic status which I'm not sure it deserves. I'm sure many will argue that but hey ho.
That's missing the point though and you could make the same point about any iconic car - there will always be something superior on another car. Desirability doesn't just depend on facts and figures, BHP and 0-60 times. Character and history comes into it as well and the scooby has those in spades.

havoc

30,086 posts

236 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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melvster said:
Epic car, super rare and IMO it deserves to have the same recognition as the E30 M3, Integrale etc... easily in my top 5 cars to drive on my favourite road.
At that money I think it DOES have the same recognition...

mazdaman1980

140 posts

205 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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mdavids said:
mazdaman1980 said:
Lovely, classic scooby but the Evo 6 Makkinen edition was far superior. Overrated by scooby nuts to get this iconic status which I'm not sure it deserves. I'm sure many will argue that but hey ho.
That's missing the point though and you could make the same point about any iconic car - there will always be something superior on another car. Desirability doesn't just depend on facts and figures, BHP and 0-60 times. Character and history comes into it as well and the scooby has those in spades.
That's fine and I partly accept your point, but I don't drive history. And character doesn't always make for a great car. Don't get me wrong, I like Imprezas but I can't accept that this car is £20,000+ better than a second hand STI.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

194 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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mazdaman1980 said:
That's fine and I partly accept your point, but I don't drive history. And character doesn't always make for a great car. Don't get me wrong, I like Imprezas but I can't accept that this car is £20,000+ better than a second hand STI.
You need to accept it, it's fact. It's a modern classic. Just like the Escort Cosworth and NSX, the 22B will continue to rise in value as people of that generation come into money. 22b's have always been solid investment, where as you could get a Cossie for around 10k about 5 years ago, I've never seen a 22b under 15k in over 10 years following their price