RE: Impreza 22B STI: Time For Coffee?
Discussion
I had a 22B alongside a P1 in the garage at one time.....always ended up taking the P1 for a spin whenever I fancied a drive and I could never really figure out why!
22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the s
te that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.
22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the s
te that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
allsop83 said:
I had a 22B alongside a P1 in the garage at one time.....always ended up taking the P1 for a spin whenever I fancied a drive and I could never really figure out why!
22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the ste that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.
22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
What a great pairing and v. envious at you having a P1 in the family from new! You Aberdeenshire-based if you used Polished Bliss?22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the s
te that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
GC8 said:
2.35l? That must have made the six speed look like small change.
It's like Banny's above - a 2.2 Cbd with a 2.5 crank from the later Subaru = 2.35litre. More torque earlier spool yet still revvy and pretty much unburstable.I have been left with only small change - you're right
but man maths sorts that out 
HonestIago said:
allsop83 said:
I had a 22B alongside a P1 in the garage at one time.....always ended up taking the P1 for a spin whenever I fancied a drive and I could never really figure out why!
22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the ste that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.
22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
What a great pairing and v. envious at you having a P1 in the family from new! You Aberdeenshire-based if you used Polished Bliss?22B was just too crashy and skittish for me (and I'm not that old!) whereas the P1 felt so much faster as it was more compliant and absorbed the s
te that my local roads had to throw at it so much better.22B did look lovely though.
Still have the P1, 22B is gone- think that says a lot.....
Thinking about putting the P1 in for some treatment this year, as you say- will be it's 14th year with us so probably deserves some pampering!
FBP1 said:
GC8 said:
2.35l? That must have made the six speed look like small change.
It's like Banny's above - a 2.2 Cbd with a 2.5 crank from the later Subaru = 2.35litre. More torque earlier spool yet still revvy and pretty much unburstable.I have been left with only small change - you're right
but man maths sorts that out A lot of Subaru bits are surprisingly interchangeable - well, not that surprising really I suppose, given the small nature of the company and parts bin type economy efforts.
The coming thing now is people are taking the 3.6L flat 6 engines out of the SVX's /Legacy's, tuning them up using the accepted knowledge as they are pretty much the same architecture are the 4 pots and sticking them into Imprezas - some as road cars, but mainly as nutty track/performance cars e.g. how does a standing 1/4 mile of just over 8 seconds at 175mph + sound or 4 seconds form 30 -130mph?! Circa 1200bhp (allegedly) in around 1000 kilos of road legal car... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QueeoNe07Aw
The coming thing now is people are taking the 3.6L flat 6 engines out of the SVX's /Legacy's, tuning them up using the accepted knowledge as they are pretty much the same architecture are the 4 pots and sticking them into Imprezas - some as road cars, but mainly as nutty track/performance cars e.g. how does a standing 1/4 mile of just over 8 seconds at 175mph + sound or 4 seconds form 30 -130mph?! Circa 1200bhp (allegedly) in around 1000 kilos of road legal car... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QueeoNe07Aw
The block used in the 22B is not the same as the EJ22T that most are using for their high power builds.
The 22B block was a CDB but didn't have any under piston oil squirters installed, unlike the EJ22T used in the USA spec Legacy blocks most use now for their 2.35 litre builds.
Little bit of extra fun info. The 16 22B Type UK's had to be held back a year before release for sale, because the grey market JDM 22B's had already taken up the import quota for that model by the time Prodrive had finished their changes.
That is why all 22B Type UK were S reg and had MY99 crystal clear front headlamps, rather than R reg with the older MY98 fogged front headlamps.
The 22B Type UK had a higher final drive ratio of 3.9:1, the JDM was 4.444:1. The UK car also received a different damper and spring package.
If you are installing a DCCD box into a P1, make sure you either disable the ABS or install the later DCCD-A controller or a centre diff controller with the same functionality. When the ABS becomes active it plays havock with the transmition if the DCCD is locked up, this is why the DCCD-A controller takes a signal input from the ABS unit and releases the diff lock if the ABS becomes active. 5% lock is about the max safe limit when the ABS is active.
All pre DCCD-A controlled DCCD equipped cars don't have ABS fitted because of this.
The 22B block was a CDB but didn't have any under piston oil squirters installed, unlike the EJ22T used in the USA spec Legacy blocks most use now for their 2.35 litre builds.
Little bit of extra fun info. The 16 22B Type UK's had to be held back a year before release for sale, because the grey market JDM 22B's had already taken up the import quota for that model by the time Prodrive had finished their changes.
That is why all 22B Type UK were S reg and had MY99 crystal clear front headlamps, rather than R reg with the older MY98 fogged front headlamps.
The 22B Type UK had a higher final drive ratio of 3.9:1, the JDM was 4.444:1. The UK car also received a different damper and spring package.
If you are installing a DCCD box into a P1, make sure you either disable the ABS or install the later DCCD-A controller or a centre diff controller with the same functionality. When the ABS becomes active it plays havock with the transmition if the DCCD is locked up, this is why the DCCD-A controller takes a signal input from the ABS unit and releases the diff lock if the ABS becomes active. 5% lock is about the max safe limit when the ABS is active.
All pre DCCD-A controlled DCCD equipped cars don't have ABS fitted because of this.
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