Winter tyres vol 2

[wombleh]

sly fox said:

JohnWest said:

Does anyone have any experience/feedback on Continental Winter Contact TS 850T? Thanks.

Yep fitted these to my car 2 weeks ago. Seem a good all rounder - but note that in some sizes, TS860 has replaced this model. I couldn't get the latest version in required sizes unfortunately.

Is the 850T a newer version?

I had 850s on my car for the last 6 winters and found them excellent in all conditions, including the heavy snow. I kept them on fairly late most years and they had no problems in warmer weather either. Got the impression you could run them all year around. Only got rid due to their age, had loads of grip left.

[cobra kid]

First time specialist tyre user here.......

I'm looking for 205-60-16 H/V cross climate/4 seasons tyres in Sheffield. Anyone know of any decent offers???

Cheers.

[sly fox]

cobra kid said:

First time specialist tyre user here.......

I'm looking for 205-60-16 H/V cross climate/4 seasons tyres in Sheffield. Anyone know of any decent offers???

Cheers.

https://www.giga-tyres.co.uk/search?minPrice=&...

That lot should give you some choice - just factor in tyre fitting somewhere near you.

[bern]

sly fox said:

https://www.giga-tyres.co.uk/search?minPrice=&...

That lot should give you some choice - just factor in tyre fitting somewhere near you.

Fellow Sheffielder.

I've been that impressed with the vredstein quatrac 5's on my Legacy, I've just ordered 4 more for our Passat. Ordered off Camskill for not a lot and had them fitted at McLaren's in Handsworth.

[JohnWest]

wombleh said:

sly fox said:

JohnWest said:

Does anyone have any experience/feedback on Continental Winter Contact TS 850T? Thanks.

Yep fitted these to my car 2 weeks ago. Seem a good all rounder - but note that in some sizes, TS860 has replaced this model. I couldn't get the latest version in required sizes unfortunately.

Is the 850T a newer version?

I had 850s on my car for the last 6 winters and found them excellent in all conditions, including the heavy snow. I kept them on fairly late most years and they had no problems in warmer weather either. Got the impression you could run them all year around. Only got rid due to their age, had loads of grip left.

Glad to hear the positive feedback. Picking up some wheels wrapped in the 850Ts at the weekend.

wombleh, these tyres have a 2017 date stamp so I don’t think they’re the newer version, someone with more knowledge than me will probably be able to tell us. *waits for jon-*

[cobra kid]

sly fox said:

https://www.giga-tyres.co.uk/search?minPrice=&...

That lot should give you some choice - just factor in tyre fitting somewhere near you.

Thank you!

[cobra kid]

bern said:

Fellow Sheffielder.

I've been that impressed with the vredstein quatrac 5's on my Legacy, I've just ordered 4 more for our Passat. Ordered off Camskill for not a lot and had them fitted at McLaren's in Handsworth.

Thank you as well

[Davie]

I can confirm, Goodyear Ultragrips are proving to be be coping rather well with what's been thrown at them over the past couple of days...





The car flagged up -4degs yesterday and it's been a bit lively out there!

[Mr Tidy]

After seeing the weather forecast I finally got my finger out and fitted my Hankook I cept Evo2 winters to my BMW 330i - time will tell!

[monthefish]

Ron99 said:

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Works both ways tbh. How about the people that think it's ok to drive on winter tyres in summer? That is something that the manufacturers definitely don't advise!

Ironically, I think winter tyres in summer are safer than summer tyres in winter.

Definitely.

I think, to crash in summer on winter tyres, where tyre choice is a significant causal factor in the crash, you would have to be really going some.
Winter tyres in summer don't feel right, but I've never even been close to losing grip as a result. (not that I do this on a regular basis, but have experienced this situation)

On the other hand, in bad winter conditions it is easy to lose control at <30mph on summer tyres without pushing it particularly hard (where winter tyres would have prevented the loss of control).


Neither situation is optimum ('winters in summer', or 'summers in winter'), but 'winters in summer' is surely the lesser of two evils.

[pills]

Cobra - are you a costco member - offer on tyres at the moment.

[cobra kid]

pills said:

Cobra - are you a costco member - offer on tyres at the moment.

I'm not but a friend is....

[Kawasicki]

monthefish said:

Ron99 said:

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Works both ways tbh. How about the people that think it's ok to drive on winter tyres in summer? That is something that the manufacturers definitely don't advise!

Ironically, I think winter tyres in summer are safer than summer tyres in winter.

Definitely.

I think, to crash in summer on winter tyres, where tyre choice is a significant causal factor in the crash, you would have to be really going some.
Winter tyres in summer don't feel right, but I've never even been close to losing grip as a result. (not that I do this on a regular basis, but have experienced this situation)

On the other hand, in bad winter conditions it is easy to lose control at <30mph on summer tyres without pushing it particularly hard (where winter tyres would have prevented the loss of control).


Neither situation is optimum ('winters in summer', or 'summers in winter'), but 'winters in summer' is surely the lesser of two evils.

You seem to think that the only advantage of grip is to support “pushing it”. How about emergency stops?

[popeyewhite]

Kawasicki said:

monthefish said:

Ron99 said:

ruprechtmonkeyboy said:

Works both ways tbh. How about the people that think it's ok to drive on winter tyres in summer? That is something that the manufacturers definitely don't advise!

Ironically, I think winter tyres in summer are safer than summer tyres in winter.

Definitely.

I think, to crash in summer on winter tyres, where tyre choice is a significant causal factor in the crash, you would have to be really going some.
Winter tyres in summer don't feel right, but I've never even been close to losing grip as a result. (not that I do this on a regular basis, but have experienced this situation)

On the other hand, in bad winter conditions it is easy to lose control at <30mph on summer tyres without pushing it particularly hard (where winter tyres would have prevented the loss of control).


Neither situation is optimum ('winters in summer', or 'summers in winter'), but 'winters in summer' is surely the lesser of two evils.

You seem to think that the only advantage of grip is to support “pushing it”. How about emergency stops?

Winters will probably not grip as well as summers, not stop as well and need replacing sooner. On a performance car they impair handling to the degree it's pointless having a performance car IMO. There are reasons why manufacturers spend millions trying to find the perfect tyre for a sports car on dry roads, and AFAIK they're all radials.

[Kawasicki]

popeyewhite said:

Winters will probably not grip as well as summers, not stop as well and need replacing sooner. On a performance car they impair handling to the degree it's pointless having a performance car IMO. There are reasons why manufacturers spend millions trying to find the perfect tyre for a sports car on dry roads, and AFAIK they're all radials.

Winter tyres are usually radial.

[popeyewhite]

Kawasicki said:

popeyewhite said:

Winters will probably not grip as well as summers, not stop as well and need replacing sooner. On a performance car they impair handling to the degree it's pointless having a performance car IMO. There are reasons why manufacturers spend millions trying to find the perfect tyre for a sports car on dry roads, and AFAIK they're all radials.

Winter tyres are usually radial.

Mine aren't, but whatever. They're radials with extra sipes. Summer performance tyres have a minimum for sharp turn-in and responsiveness, and the more performance you want the less sipes there are, until you get to slicks. Top pic is Dunlop Sport Maxx, bottom is Pirelli Winter Sottozeros. Spot the difference. Not sure I'd call the bottom tyre a radial - it's a winter tyre combining different technologies.

[Turbojuice]

Radial refers to the internal construction of the tyre, it has nothing to do with the tread pattern. All modern road car tyres are radial.

[popeyewhite]

Turbojuice said:

Radial refers to the internal construction of the tyre, it has nothing to do with the tread pattern. All modern road car tyres are radial.

Well well, thanks. Every day etc. My point still stands concerning winter sipes vs car handling/performance.

[RammyMP]

I got called a ‘fking dick’ today by a colleague when I said I’d bought winter tyres. When it snows seemingly he’s happy to abandon his car and carry on his journey on foot. Different strokes I spose.

[Turbojuice]

popeyewhite said:

Turbojuice said:

Radial refers to the internal construction of the tyre, it has nothing to do with the tread pattern. All modern road car tyres are radial.

Well well, thanks. Every day etc. My point still stands concerning winter sipes vs car handling/performance.

True but when it gets very cold, winters will be better than summers in the dry too because of how summers stiffen up and stop gripping when they get too cold. I know what you're saying about when you want to go fast down a B road, winters can be too soft and give a mushy handling feel, but who in reality is chucking their cars down B roads in the freezing cold?