Winter tyres vol 2

[ianrb]

foliedouce said:

Wondering if anyone can help on a winter tyre question.

I am looking at buying a Mitsubishi Shogun, which has 20 inch rims on it, currently wearing 265/50/R20 tyres

I will want a set of decent winter tyres (snowflake symbol) but it appears the range is very limited in this size.

I normally buy GG AT2s, but I'm also looking at BFG KO2s

I can get 265/60/20 but not sure they will fit without grounding out.

Does anyone have an recommendations of winter tyre with this size of rim, or real world experience if the higher profile tyre will fit?

Thanks

See if you can find reviews of these:

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m148b0s8640p0/All_Seaso...

[Carbon Sasquatch]

ianrb said:

foliedouce said:

Wondering if anyone can help on a winter tyre question.

I am looking at buying a Mitsubishi Shogun, which has 20 inch rims on it, currently wearing 265/50/R20 tyres

I will want a set of decent winter tyres (snowflake symbol) but it appears the range is very limited in this size.

I normally buy GG AT2s, but I'm also looking at BFG KO2s

I can get 265/60/20 but not sure they will fit without grounding out.

Does anyone have an recommendations of winter tyre with this size of rim, or real world experience if the higher profile tyre will fit?

Thanks

See if you can find reviews of these:

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m148b0s8640p0/All_Seaso...

Same site has plenty of full withers tyres in 265/50/20 too

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m105b0s7723p0/Winter_-_...

[ST565NP]

foliedouce said:

Wondering if anyone can help on a winter tyre question.

I am looking at buying a Mitsubishi Shogun, which has 20 inch rims on it, currently wearing 265/50/R20 tyres

I will want a set of decent winter tyres (snowflake symbol) but it appears the range is very limited in this size.

If you need winter tyres for snow use, maybe buy smaller, 17 or 18 inch wheels and 265/65R17 or 265/60R18 tyres. Will be better for that use and cheaper.

foliedouce said:

I normally buy GG AT2s, but I'm also looking at BFG KO2s

I can get 265/60/20 but not sure they will fit without grounding out.

The 265/60/20 will be too big if you do not have a lifted car. It will be 6,9 % bigger diameter. Look here for the details : https://tiresize.com/tyre-size-calculator/

[Gtom]

I’m on the look out for tyres for my van but actually trying to find decent reviews is hard! The current size is 215/65/16 and I can go up to 225/75/16 if I want, I’m after an all season/winter tyre or possibly even all terrain that has got good wet weather grip (or at least better than the continental vanco’s that are on now).

I do a lot of rural driving and I’m self employed so a decent set of tyres will pay for themselves if the snow comes. If the snow doesn’t come I just want to enjoy some decent grip in wet weather conditions.

So far I have looked at toyo open country all terrains and Michelin agilis cross climates but I’m open to suggestions.

[loskie]

https://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/brands/vredeste...

[Gtom]

I went for these in the end

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/general-tir...

I know the tyres are from 2017 but I can live with that for £55 each. I’m just hoping they offer half decent wet weather grip and aren’t terrible in snow.

[Pica-Pica]

Gtom said:

I went for these in the end

https://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/general-tir...

I know the tyres are from 2017 but I can live with that for £55 each. I’m just hoping they offer half decent wet weather grip and aren’t terrible in snow.

The reviews seem good for winter grip.

[Honeywell]

Michelin Crossclimate+ possibly saved my life a week ago tonight. Local temperature as 2 degrees in the early hours when I was setting out for work at 3am. Empty roads saw me come around a downhill sweeping corner only to find a full sized matured horse chestnut tree completely fallen across the road.

1800kg of BMW 5 series in a pedal to the floor stop from 65mph to full stop on a wet road at 2 degrees centigrade. After a lot of flashing ABS lights I stopped five feet from the tree trunk. On a summer tyre I'd have certainly written the car off and quite possibly have hurt myself.

I've never (accidentally) run out of dry grip. All my heart stoppers or actual shunts have been in the cold and the wet. Sacrificing a touch of warm day dry grip is a price well worth paying for the advantages of an All Season like the CC+

[Gtom]

Honeywell said:

Michelin Crossclimate+ possibly saved my life a week ago tonight. Local temperature as 2 degrees in the early hours when I was setting out for work at 3am. Empty roads saw me come around a downhill sweeping corner only to find a full sized matured horse chestnut tree completely fallen across the road.

1800kg of BMW 5 series in a pedal to the floor stop from 65mph to full stop on a wet road at 2 degrees centigrade. After a lot of flashing ABS lights I stopped five feet from the tree trunk. On a summer tyre I'd have certainly written the car off and quite possibly have hurt myself.

I've never (accidentally) run out of dry grip. All my heart stoppers or actual shunts have been in the cold and the wet. Sacrificing a touch of warm day dry grip is a price well worth paying for the advantages of an All Season like the CC+

That’s how I see it, if I run out grip in the dry I probably shouldn’t be on the roads (I’m in a transit van) but in the wet grip can be lost at such a low speed.

[Ron99]

Honeywell said:

I've never (accidentally) run out of dry grip. All my heart stoppers or actual shunts have been in the cold and the wet.

Same here.

[Pica-Pica]

Honeywell said:

Michelin Crossclimate+ possibly saved my life a week ago tonight. Local temperature as 2 degrees in the early hours when I was setting out for work at 3am. Empty roads saw me come around a downhill sweeping corner only to find a full sized matured horse chestnut tree completely fallen across the road.

1800kg of BMW 5 series in a pedal to the floor stop from 65mph to full stop on a wet road at 2 degrees centigrade. After a lot of flashing ABS lights I stopped five feet from the tree trunk. On a summer tyre I'd have certainly written the car off and quite possibly have hurt myself.

I've never (accidentally) run out of dry grip. All my heart stoppers or actual shunts have been in the cold and the wet. Sacrificing a touch of warm day dry grip is a price well worth paying for the advantages of an All Season like the CC+

Good to see you could stop within the distance you could see to be clear.

[DailyHack]

Been running "Tomket Snowroads" (215/55/16) for around 2k miles now as my winter setup, they are fully scrubbed in now, been all over UK on all sorts of roads and weather on my 9-3 TTid, which is a rather torquey thing.

But they have been absolutely brilliant tyres, and I have run loads of different brands over the years, not much about them around, but have seen them advertised at sporting events, highly recommend them, very good!

[Honeywell]

Pica-Pica said:

Good to see you could stop within the distance you could see to be clear.

Just, just. One tends to be a little bolder at that time of the morning on country roads where there's no traffic and nobody is cutting a hedge.

[Pica-Pica]

Honeywell said:

Pica-Pica said:

Good to see you could stop within the distance you could see to be clear.

Just, just. One tends to be a little bolder at that time of the morning on country roads where there's no traffic and nobody is cutting a hedge.

The closest we got was driving up a hill round a back lane bend, and met a snow plough taking up all the width of the road. There was no snow, and the temperature was not that low, I guess they were just moving it to another place in preparation for the winter. So it is not just a stationary object to be aware of, but something taking up the whole width AND coming toward you.

[FiF]

Yet another cracking video from jon- on Tyre Reviews.

2wd vs AWD, all season vs winter, using General Grabber products and a VW Amarok, all combinations tested. Sliding a lightly laden pickup looks like a new winter sport.

https://youtu.be/a7E3GTpgvjs

[blueST]

Can anyone see what the difference is between these two Hankook winters is on Camskill? MyTyres also list them twice at different prices, so assume there is some difference I'm not seeing.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p130331/Hankoo...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p152544/Hankoo...

[Podie]

blueST said:

Can anyone see what the difference is between these two Hankook winters is on Camskill? MyTyres also list them twice at different prices, so assume there is some difference I'm not seeing.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p130331/Hankoo...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p152544/Hankoo...

Nope! (price aside, specs look identical!)

[Orangecurry]

blueST said:

Can anyone see what the difference is between these two Hankook winters is on Camskill? MyTyres also list them twice at different prices, so assume there is some difference I'm not seeing.

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p130331/Hankoo...

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m95b0s714p152544/Hankoo...

The cheaper ones arrive faster....

[jon-]

FiF said:

Yet another cracking video from jon- on Tyre Reviews.

2wd vs AWD, all season vs winter, using General Grabber products and a VW Amarok, all combinations tested. Sliding a lightly laden pickup looks like a new winter sport.

https://youtu.be/a7E3GTpgvjs

Thank you

That pickup was really epic!

[Ron99]

blueST said:

Can anyone see what the difference is between these two Hankook winters is on Camskill? MyTyres also list them twice at different prices, so assume there is some difference I'm not seeing.

A couple of years ago Black Circles had two listings at slightly different prices for a tyre I was planning to buy.

I emailed their customer services and their reply was along the lines of it being two different batches of tyres, therefore may have cost them different amounts to purchase or they want to sell the earlier batch promptly.

Sometimes when I've seen tyre offers at, say, Kwik Fit the discounted tyre sells out within a few days, then isn't listed on their website for a week or so, before then reappearing at a different price. Again, presumably clearing out an older batch ready for the arrival of a new batch.