RE: Maserati Ghibli S: Review
Discussion
If it is so 'bad to drive', I'm a bit disappointed. I was looking forward to wanting/having one of these one day just for a hoot.
I also agree with some that the rear end looks more Kia than Maserati. The sides, front and interior however, look really good, and different enough from the mainstream Germans.
I dare say it will sell though, to the image conscience and badge snobs regardless of it's percieved issues.
I also agree with some that the rear end looks more Kia than Maserati. The sides, front and interior however, look really good, and different enough from the mainstream Germans.
I dare say it will sell though, to the image conscience and badge snobs regardless of it's percieved issues.
crostonian said:
Don't know why you assume the residuals will be worse than the Jag. The QP has much better residuals than the XJ and the Gran Turismo residuals are best in class. I agree the Ghibli will not have best in class residuals but I would be very surprised if they are worse than the XF and E-Class.
I agree, the badge alone will enable it to keep at least in line with the Germans and Jag on residuals (I'd guess!).Met one of these in the showroom a couple of weeks ago. The front end is certainly striking but is it really beautiful? There was something about the older Massers which was truly different and all the better for it. I do wonder if something of Ferrari's current shock and awe styling has not made its way across to its sister company. For me I would rather have the old 'porte or ask passengers to get through the front door of the Gran Tourismo which still looks absolutely stunning. Mind you I would imagine that this has been designed for its primary market which, I would assume, is China. Thus our opinion matters a little less than it did.
An alternative view from Mr Metcalf - http://youtu.be/jlBFdR12vEY
I would take the Maserati over all the alternatives - the only other car in this class that might make me reconsider is the tesla model s.
I would take the Maserati over all the alternatives - the only other car in this class that might make me reconsider is the tesla model s.
kambites said:
From what I've read, Ferrari's steering doesn't seem to attract the same sort of criticism as the rest of Fiat group, so presumably they have at least one person in the group who is capable of setting it up properly.
Yeah, but somehow I think Ferrari is being treated like a completely separate entity... note the hullaballoo that was being made a few years about Maserati being moved from under Ferrari's wings to under Fiat control... something that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference otherwise. 
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Well done Hyundai for winning the design contract for the back end.
Do you mean Peter Schreyer the designer of the Audi TT? Either way, Hyundais look great generally, I guess attempted mockery is your only recourse to joy considering your own country's car industry is nigh on defunct.Why oh why are manufacturers of the 'prestige 'brands' still persisting fitting so-called performance orientated cars with stupid EPS...... do they really think people who are spunking 50k-plus on a car care about the fact that EPS is saving them a couple of CO2's, a fraction of a mile per gallon or a few kilo's in weight....?
aeropilot said:
Why oh why are manufacturers of the 'prestige 'brands' still persisting fitting so-called performance orientated cars with stupid EPS...... do they really think people who are spunking 50k-plus on a car care about the fact that EPS is saving them a couple of CO2's, a fraction of a mile per gallon or a few kilo's in weight....?
But the EU does. And when you are asked to cough up, say 5 euros per gram CO2 that any of your cars emit over a certain arbitrary limit, you'll comply or you'll be rendered uncompetititve in the EU market.blasos said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
Well done Hyundai for winning the design contract for the back end.
Do you mean Peter Schreyer the designer of the Audi TT? Either way, Hyundais look great generally, I guess attempted mockery is your only recourse to joy considering your own country's car industry is nigh on defunct.I'll just leave this stunner here:
Some keen lease deals about.
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Quote is for 5k miles, £440 pcm plus VAT.
Pleased that Maserati are adding a little competition to this German dominated marketplace. If I were in the market for one, I'd probably forgive some minor shortcomings, just for being different. Not that you should have to at this price point though.
Would also love to know if the ride is really that bad? I cant imagine it could be any worse than An A6/5 series/E class S line/MSport/AMG line on 20" rims?
Perhaps a comparison with the Maser on more modest wheels would add some perspective?
Time and time again, journalists tell us the ride is too firm, whilst manufacturers tell us that's what sells.
Would also love to know if the ride is really that bad? I cant imagine it could be any worse than An A6/5 series/E class S line/MSport/AMG line on 20" rims?
Perhaps a comparison with the Maser on more modest wheels would add some perspective?
Time and time again, journalists tell us the ride is too firm, whilst manufacturers tell us that's what sells.
aeropilot said:
Why oh why are manufacturers of the 'prestige 'brands' still persisting fitting so-called performance orientated cars with stupid EPS...... do they really think people who are spunking 50k-plus on a car care about the fact that EPS is saving them a couple of CO2's, a fraction of a mile per gallon or a few kilo's in weight....?
It has Hydraulic not electric power steering.900T-R said:
Motormatt said:
Time and time again, journalists tell us the ride is too firm, whilst manufacturers tell us that's what sells.
More a case of people wanting the look of the big wheels, then telling themselves they don't really notice any difference in ride quality...
te!900T-R said:
kambites said:
From what I've read, Ferrari's steering doesn't seem to attract the same sort of criticism as the rest of Fiat group, so presumably they have at least one person in the group who is capable of setting it up properly.
Yeah, but somehow I think Ferrari is being treated like a completely separate entity... note the hullaballoo that was being made a few years about Maserati being moved from under Ferrari's wings to under Fiat control... something that wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference otherwise. They never seem to mention Ferrari's steering feel in there reviews very often, I dare suspect that's a case of Harris esque 'don't say too much bad stuff' about Ferrari.
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