Hopefully RE: Nurburgring sold: official
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simo1863 said:
Hitler wasn't German but I'm aware of a rumour that he championed it's building back in the day.
Construction of the Nürburgring started on 1.7.1925. It took 2,500 men two years to build - the first race meeting was 17.6.1927. Dr Otto Creutz is the father of the Nürburgring. Hitler came to power in 1933 - 8 years after construction started. The building of it has nothing to do with Hitler and I'd imagine that most Germans would be pretty upset if you suggested that it did. In 1935, Dr Creutz was prosecuted by the Nazi state - the judge was instructed that he must find him guilty and Creutz was lucky not to be shot. Hitler never attended any races at the Nürburgring.agtlaw said:
simo1863 said:
Hitler wasn't German but I'm aware of a rumour that he championed it's building back in the day.
Construction of the Nürburgring started on 1.7.1925. It took 2,500 men two years to build - the first race meeting was 17.6.1927. Dr Otto Creutz is the father of the Nürburgring. Hitler came to power in 1933 - 8 years after construction started. The building of it has nothing to do with Hitler and I'd imagine that most Germans would be pretty upset if you suggested that it did. In 1935, Dr Creutz was prosecuted by the Nazi state - the judge was instructed that he must find him guilty and Creutz was lucky not to be shot. Hitler never attended any races at the Nürburgring.
k-ink said:
sisu said:
It takes a special arrogance to make fun of you when this is the view of Brooklands race circuit from a Tesco's Metro Carpark and all we are left of is making a TV show about building a scale model of it in Scaletrics.
I moved here a couple of years ago. I was astounded when I realised the Brooklands race track had been cut up to allow a Tescos development. Absolutely disgraceful. Mind you we put a motorway almost through Stone Henge, plus the entire country was gang raped by crap architects during the 1960s, so nothing surprises me anymore. In many respects this country is a damn mess.Brooklands also suffered from nimbys complaining about the noise, so there were many reasons why it wasn't resurrected after 1945.
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Amirhussain said:
is that a 911?
I believe, good sir, that the vehicle in question is actually the never-before-seen Porsche 900, obviously the precursor to all air-cooled, boxer-type Porsche. Unfortunately, Porsche refuse to confirm this. Probably lost all the records during the '40's.........Gixer said:
jsf said:
Hitler had nothing to do with the building of the nurburgring, it was built in 1925-26-27 and had its first event in June 1927.
The ring card was a complete disaster, good news that its gone.
Yes but it was the Nazi party that put it on the map so to speak (or should I say kept it on the map), as they used it as part of their huge propaganda machine over the coming decade. If they didn't, it would likely not have survived at all. The ring card was a complete disaster, good news that its gone.
jsf said:
Gixer said:
And it would not be there if it wasn't for him.
Ring card is a bit annoying tbh. The graffiti on the track needs to stay. It's part of what makes the ring the ring.
Hitler had nothing to do with the building of the nurburgring, it was built in 1925-26-27 and had its first event in June 1927.Ring card is a bit annoying tbh. The graffiti on the track needs to stay. It's part of what makes the ring the ring.
The ring card was a complete disaster, good news that its gone.
jsf said:
Gixer said:
jsf said:
Hitler had nothing to do with the building of the nurburgring, it was built in 1925-26-27 and had its first event in June 1927.
The ring card was a complete disaster, good news that its gone.
Yes but it was the Nazi party that put it on the map so to speak (or should I say kept it on the map), as they used it as part of their huge propaganda machine over the coming decade. If they didn't, it would likely not have survived at all. The ring card was a complete disaster, good news that its gone.
The ring barely survived the war as it was. Given that it was built in a poor region of Germany in the first place, it is highly unlikely it would have survived at all if it wasn't for the fact it was used by Nazi party propaganda machine so heavily on the build up to the war. All the information is there in books, and on the Internet if you can be bothered to look for it.
German chancellor Adolf Hitler understood the symbolism behind racing cars as it could serve a prime example of German technological superiority. At the 1933 Berlin Motor Show, he announced a state-sponsored motor racing program to develop a “high speed German automotive industry”. Huge sums of Reichsmarks were poured into the program, resulting in a fleet of Silver Arrows – as the Mercedes and Auto Union teams were known ‒ which became the dominant Grand Prix cars of their time, to Hitler’s delight
Edited by Gixer on Thursday 13th March 09:12
ayseven said:
Getting on one's high horse is what the internet is all about. But it's a German road, now owned by Germans. Sounds pretty normal to me.
Never a truen word etc.Surprised by the lack of knowledge about the place though.Has there been and mention of the "Test route"above Adenau that was completed in 1923?Its often denied that Hitler had anything to do with the building of the remaining track in order to give local people a way of earning a wage , why??
There is a woman living in Adenau who has sat on every meeting relating to Nurburgring.What she doesn't know about its history from day one really isnt worth the energy.When I spoke to her at our first ever meeting, she was surprised to hear an English man speak of". Hitlers involvement, as many people do not know this"
Its in the history books.
terenceb said:
Never a truen word etc.Surprised by the lack of knowledge about the place though.Has there been and mention of the "Test route"above Adenau that was completed in 1923?
Its often denied that Hitler had anything to do with the building of the remaining track in order to give local people a way of earning a wage , why??
There is a woman living in Adenau who has sat on every meeting relating to Nurburgring.What she doesn't know about its history from day one really isnt worth the energy.When I spoke to her at our first ever meeting, she was surprised to hear an English man speak of". Hitlers involvement, as many people do not know this"
Its in the history books.
Interesting. I have a pdf of a really good Nürburgring history book (in English). Happy to email it to you if you send me a DM.Its often denied that Hitler had anything to do with the building of the remaining track in order to give local people a way of earning a wage , why??
There is a woman living in Adenau who has sat on every meeting relating to Nurburgring.What she doesn't know about its history from day one really isnt worth the energy.When I spoke to her at our first ever meeting, she was surprised to hear an English man speak of". Hitlers involvement, as many people do not know this"
Its in the history books.
Just to add to my post, a few years back I rented a room just up the road at Jamelshofen, the owner had a great picture showing the creation of the Karrusell.Group of workers being spoken to by Hitler in civvies accompanied by another couple of people in uniform. Really must call in to see if he still lives there and ask if I can take a copy of it.Point is that Hitler had to make a start somewhere to build on peoples favour, had he failed-history might well be a bit different.
Our present landlady/very good friend owns what used to be the petrol station at the top of Breidsheid , its now an imbiss/pizzeria. Her father started the business in 1920, when the "Test"hill/track was completed in 1923, he would use his Horch onpen top cabriolet as sort of a "Half Ring Taxi".This car would take 7 passengers.He was one of the first people to drive on the ring as and official Ring Taxi, out several "inspectors"one his very first lap there was a slightly built man sitting in the middle row of seats, guess who he was.I have tried photographing the original but the quality is pretty naff so time it gets produced on here it'll be a waste of time.
Another thing about this area, the Eifel is that a lot of SS were recruited from this area.There is a once forgotten records office in the hills just up the road in the Ahr valley thats recently been open to the public, plan is to take a look before the season gets underway.
Another thing about this area, the Eifel is that a lot of SS were recruited from this area.There is a once forgotten records office in the hills just up the road in the Ahr valley thats recently been open to the public, plan is to take a look before the season gets underway.
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