RE: Classic Jaguar unlocks Pink Floyd past

RE: Classic Jaguar unlocks Pink Floyd past

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Roy C

4,187 posts

285 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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AFAICR this car (or what is left of it) has been on sale for a while. a lot of the racing stuff has been removed. The car and drivers' names are very badly re-painted. It failed to sell at auction when it was half the price it is up for now. Probably much worse than it looks.

There don't appear to be any photographs of this car at the Carrera Pan Americana 1992. It was quickly disposed of after it failed in the race.
PH said:
"one of Pink Floyd's finest petrolhead moments"
Yeah, right. rolleyes

sad61t

1,100 posts

211 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Chris Type R said:
"NEEDS TOTAL RESTORATION ,COMES WITH A 3.8 LITRE ENGINE AND SYNCHROMESH GEARBOX."
Apologies, all caps blindness had set in.

I'd still want to check it was the original engine/gearbox.

Roy C

4,187 posts

285 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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sad61t said:
I'd still want to check it was the original engine/gearbox.
The car was originally a 3.4 Auto before being modified for the race. I believe Steve O'Rourke sold it without the dry-sump 3.8 litre race engine and synchromesh gearbox, but the previous owner purchased replacements for these. More here: http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2014-03...

Chris Type R

8,039 posts

250 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Roy C said:
The car was originally a 3.4 Auto before being modified for the race. I believe Steve O'Rourke sold it without the dry-sump 3.8 litre race engine and synchromesh gearbox, but the previous owner purchased replacements for these. More here: http://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2014-03...
Might not be the original, but looks nice:

BazT

319 posts

190 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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'EMKA' rolleyes

ValentineLindsay

4 posts

122 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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This car was prepared with another MK 2 for the 1990 Panamericana. Dave Gilmour were dialled in to drive this one with Steve O'Rourke, Pink Floyd's manager and established Le Mans racer. I was sharing the other one with historic racer Ant Rufus Isaacs. Sadly, the cars didn't make the start of the race and only turned up the morning of the second day. The team who had prepared the cars and were delivering them were really useless. Driving the two cars down to the start from the hotel to start the second day, the Gilmour/O'Rourke car completely broke down and didn't make the start line (as such it didn't manage a single mile of the race!). Ant gave up his seat in my car to Dave and we did start the second day. However 30 miles later our car over heated, lost all it's gears, brakes and a number of other things and our race was also finished! They were quite literally the worst prepared old bangers that I have ever had the misfortune to be associated with.

Dave, Steve and I then flew up to Mexico city and hopped on a flight to Paris for a few days of fun as we weren't expected back in the UK for a week. During that stay in Paris we hatched the plan to do the event again properly the following year using C Type replicas. I was to drive this time with Nick Mason. We built two Proteus C Types, got Labatts to sponsor us and set off for Mexico once again this time with a film crew to make a film about us with the Floyd doing the music. We were all doing really well in the race until Dave and Steve had a terrible accident half way through which put them out of the race and Steve in hospital. Nick and I however had a great time and ultimately came 8th overall and second or third in class. We didn't have enough stuff for the film so ended up in a Mexican restaurant in Notting Hill Gate being filmed pretending that we were in a bar out in the Mexican out back somewhere. Naturally, the camera avoided filming Steve's leg...as it was in an enormous plaster cast. Anyway the film ended up being quite watchable and went out that year on Christmas eve on the BBC!

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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From the horses mouth there, interesting stuff.

J4CKO

41,635 posts

201 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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So, knackered old Jag that wasn't driven by members of Pink Floyd ?

Must be priceless....

NickGibbs

1,260 posts

232 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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ValentineLindsay said:
This car was prepared with another MK 2 for the 1990 Panamericana. Dave Gilmour were dialled in to drive this one with Steve O'Rourke, Pink Floyd's manager and established Le Mans racer. I was sharing the other one with historic racer Ant Rufus Isaacs. Sadly, the cars didn't make the start of the race and only turned up the morning of the second day. The team who had prepared the cars and were delivering them were really useless. Driving the two cars down to the start from the hotel to start the second day, the Gilmour/O'Rourke car completely broke down and didn't make the start line (as such it didn't manage a single mile of the race!). Ant gave up his seat in my car to Dave and we did start the second day. However 30 miles later our car over heated, lost all it's gears, brakes and a number of other things and our race was also finished! They were quite literally the worst prepared old bangers that I have ever had the misfortune to be associated with.

Dave, Steve and I then flew up to Mexico city and hopped on a flight to Paris for a few days of fun as we weren't expected back in the UK for a week. During that stay in Paris we hatched the plan to do the event again properly the following year using C Type replicas. I was to drive this time with Nick Mason. We built two Proteus C Types, got Labatts to sponsor us and set off for Mexico once again this time with a film crew to make a film about us with the Floyd doing the music. We were all doing really well in the race until Dave and Steve had a terrible accident half way through which put them out of the race and Steve in hospital. Nick and I however had a great time and ultimately came 8th overall and second or third in class. We didn't have enough stuff for the film so ended up in a Mexican restaurant in Notting Hill Gate being filmed pretending that we were in a bar out in the Mexican out back somewhere. Naturally, the camera avoided filming Steve's leg...as it was in an enormous plaster cast. Anyway the film ended up being quite watchable and went out that year on Christmas eve on the BBC!
Fascinating stuff - thanks for adding that Valentine. So this is in fact the 1990 car that kickstarted the 1991 Proteus entry, and nothing to do with the 1992 race at all? I'm amazed it was even brought back home given the grief it gave you!

ValentineLindsay

4 posts

122 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Watch this. Second half of the clip shows our frustration!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrZIm8RBEqE

NickGibbs

1,260 posts

232 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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Oh dear! Some well controlled frustration there. Glad it turned into something more the next year, even if it was a bit dramatic. Looked a ton of fun. Have you got any pictures of the Mk2 Jag at the time?

TimLambert7

642 posts

126 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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What an incredible story. Thank you for sharing it with us all!

Pistonheads really is excellent.

61GT

579 posts

181 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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ValentineLindsay said:
This car was prepared with another MK 2 for the 1990 Panamericana. Dave Gilmour were dialled in to drive this one with Steve O'Rourke, Pink Floyd's manager and established Le Mans racer. I was sharing the other one with historic racer Ant Rufus Isaacs. Sadly, the cars didn't make the start of the race and only turned up the morning of the second day. The team who had prepared the cars and were delivering them were really useless. Driving the two cars down to the start from the hotel to start the second day, the Gilmour/O'Rourke car completely broke down and didn't make the start line (as such it didn't manage a single mile of the race!). Ant gave up his seat in my car to Dave and we did start the second day. However 30 miles later our car over heated, lost all it's gears, brakes and a number of other things and our race was also finished! They were quite literally the worst prepared old bangers that I have ever had the misfortune to be associated with.

Dave, Steve and I then flew up to Mexico city and hopped on a flight to Paris for a few days of fun as we weren't expected back in the UK for a week. During that stay in Paris we hatched the plan to do the event again properly the following year using C Type replicas. I was to drive this time with Nick Mason. We built two Proteus C Types, got Labatts to sponsor us and set off for Mexico once again this time with a film crew to make a film about us with the Floyd doing the music. We were all doing really well in the race until Dave and Steve had a terrible accident half way through which put them out of the race and Steve in hospital. Nick and I however had a great time and ultimately came 8th overall and second or third in class. We didn't have enough stuff for the film so ended up in a Mexican restaurant in Notting Hill Gate being filmed pretending that we were in a bar out in the Mexican out back somewhere. Naturally, the camera avoided filming Steve's leg...as it was in an enormous plaster cast. Anyway the film ended up being quite watchable and went out that year on Christmas eve on the BBC!
Thanks for clearing that up, I remember the original programme being broadcast on the BBC but couldn't recall anything about the 1990 event - this explains why. I've got the official tape of the event somewhere that I did transfer to DVD. Pretty sure in the closing sequence at the end a London double-decker bus appears in the reflection on the window of the Mexican restaurant. Filming it in Notting Hill would be the reason!

ValentineLindsay

4 posts

122 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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ValentineLindsay

4 posts

122 months

Wednesday 26th March 2014
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This is a picture of me and Dave in the other Jag starting the second day from Oaxaca. After we broke down we returned to Oaxaca, got quite drunk as you can imagine. You can see in this picture where I got the poster I posted earlier!

NickGibbs

1,260 posts

232 months

Thursday 27th March 2014
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That's great - thanks for that. Oaxaca at least must have been great place to be holed up - isn't Mezcal made nearby?!
Love that we've got the real story. And we did get a picture of the car (or at least its less evil twin!)

carinaman

21,329 posts

173 months

Saturday 29th March 2014
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Regarding the lengthy post that appeared and disappeared on Thursday, I'm regretting not going to see a film that was being pushed when I visited the west coast of Ireland about a decade ago now.

Round about this time, EMAP did a weekly competitor to AutoExpress and the new motoring weekly did a competition in which the first prize was following this race for a week or two. The consolation prizes weren't quite so good as a trip to southern/central America.

Seeing Pink Floyd on stage in London and then flying to LeMans to get into a car during the 24 hour race is quite something.

ParanoidAndroid

1,359 posts

284 months

Tuesday 1st April 2014
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Remember watching that on telly. Think I even video'd it at the time, may have it tucked away in the loft somewhere.

politeperson

542 posts

182 months

Wednesday 24th November 2021
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I know this is a 7 year gap. Just noticed the thread!

I have the blue XK120 from the 1991 Carrera Panamericana in a shed. It has been off the road since the early 90s.

I appears in the film over 7 times from memory. It has survived very well. Zero rust unbelievably.