Mk5 Golf R32 or Audi S4 estate (2005)
Discussion
Anyone owned or driven both and care to comment?
I'm guessing R32 running costs would be a fair bit lower in terms of maintenance (2 less cylinders), and running costs from mpg. You can fit alot more crap in an S4, but it'll also weigh more so possibly less fun to drive. I'm not after rwd, this is a daily and the weekend toy is staying.
I only do 11 miles a day so fuel isn't really a major issue, both are 05 plates so would be £280 tax, insurance similar I'm guessing.
Thoughts...
I'm guessing R32 running costs would be a fair bit lower in terms of maintenance (2 less cylinders), and running costs from mpg. You can fit alot more crap in an S4, but it'll also weigh more so possibly less fun to drive. I'm not after rwd, this is a daily and the weekend toy is staying.
I only do 11 miles a day so fuel isn't really a major issue, both are 05 plates so would be £280 tax, insurance similar I'm guessing.
Thoughts...
Yes, stick to manual s4. If it has been service properly and is a cared for car I don't think you should have any problems. Running costs will be similar I imagine as you have to wind up the V6 to get the go while the V8 will give you go from a bit lower. Servicing, the s4 will be marginally more expensive, bigger brake discs, extra 2 spark plugs, etc. and if you service it at a good independent that reduces the difference even more. Go for the Audi. Consider a Passat R36 as well maybe?
I'd chose the S4 personally for the increased space.
I like the mk5 GTI and think it's a far better steer than the R32, unless you really MUST have a 4WD Golf I'd look at the GTI, it's a cracking all rounder and it's hardly any slower considering how much cheaper they are to run, you could always remap it for some extra power too.
I like the mk5 GTI and think it's a far better steer than the R32, unless you really MUST have a 4WD Golf I'd look at the GTI, it's a cracking all rounder and it's hardly any slower considering how much cheaper they are to run, you could always remap it for some extra power too.
I'd take the R. It is rarer and more interesting. It would also be a better drive than a B6 S4. The R had Bilstein shocks and H&R manufactured springs right from the factory. Furthermore, aside from Haldex II's tendency to see-saw with it's overly rapid power shuffling in slow corners, it will be far more entertaining than the Torsen S4 of that gen. Weight balance should be better too, with the transverse engine mounted farther back and lower than the very forward position of the old S4 chassis.
scherzkeks said:
I'd take the R. It is rarer and more interesting. It would also be a better drive than a B6 S4. The R had Bilstein shocks and H&R manufactured springs right from the factory. Furthermore, aside from Haldex II's tendency to see-saw with it's overly rapid power shuffling in slow corners, it will be far more entertaining than the Torsen S4 of that gen. Weight balance should be better too, with the transverse engine mounted farther back and lower than the very forward position of the old S4 chassis.
you haven't driven either have you?I've driven both and own an R32. Both cars were on my shortlist but S4 B7 saloons are very rare.
Not a deal of difference performance wise between the two but R32 feels lighter on its feet regarding steering response and quick direction changes.
Both sound great too. You can't go wrong with either.
Ps both cars have reports of timing chain stretch/rattle (maybe more so on the S4) and it isn't a cheap fix.
Not a deal of difference performance wise between the two but R32 feels lighter on its feet regarding steering response and quick direction changes.
Both sound great too. You can't go wrong with either.
Ps both cars have reports of timing chain stretch/rattle (maybe more so on the S4) and it isn't a cheap fix.
Had an s4, really nice car.
Mine handled very nicely I thought, very un-Audi like, had an RS3 a few years later and loathed the thing.
Clarkson seemed to like it, I know he's a bit of a tool, but he used to do semi decent reviews
http://vimeo.com/45161277
Mine handled very nicely I thought, very un-Audi like, had an RS3 a few years later and loathed the thing.
Clarkson seemed to like it, I know he's a bit of a tool, but he used to do semi decent reviews
http://vimeo.com/45161277
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