RE: Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4: Review

RE: Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4: Review

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monthefish

20,443 posts

232 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Dan Trent said:
monthefish said:
What happened at 0:37 - was that it bouncing off the limiter?

ETA and 1:41. Who is that driving????
Yours truly, demonstrating the lag I mentioned in the upshift and what happens if you don't pre-empt the redline and pull the paddle before rev counter passes 8K!

In Strada and Sport it had been up shifting even in manual. Not in Corsa tho...

Cheers,

Dan
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Very noble of you to make yourself look like a crap driver just to demonstrate a flaw in the car; You truly are a dedicated reporter! wink

SpunkyM

250 posts

245 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Actually I thought he drove that circuit very well. Pretty much nailed all the entry and exit points. Way better than the car he was following.

Dan Trent

1,866 posts

169 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Righto, without wishing to sound overly defensive and being as it (seems) to be a topic for discussion here's the view from the driver's seat on why I kept banging into the rev limiter.

Peak hp is at 8,250rpm and when you're chasing a bloke in an Aventador you need every last one of them! It was pretty cool because you'd get just a puff of black smoke when he got on the throttle meaning you had to do likewise pretty damned quickly to keep tabs!

As per the article I started in Auto then switched to Manual, first in Strada, then Sport mode. I was surprised to find that just at the point where I was about to pull the upshift paddle the gearbox would pre-empt me and do so automatically, suggesting either some lag in the gearshift or, perhaps, in the 'rev counter' on the TFT display. There are no shift-up lights either.

In Corsa - as you'll have seen - it will run into the limiter if you don't shift up in time. As you'll see from the pic below the actual redline on the display is at 8.5K but if you didn't pull the upshift paddle by the time the 'needle' reached 8 the shift wouldn't go through in time to avoid the limiter, giving a 'lag' of around 500rpm, halfway through which your full stable of 610hp lurks.

So, it's either a time delay in the shift responding to the paddle input. Or perhaps some sort of delay in what the TFT rev counter shows and the actual engine rpm.

Or just rubbish driving!

Cheers,

Dan


The Beaver King

6,095 posts

196 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Any ideas why this might be ref the delay in shifting?

Protecting the press car or some design flaw?




...you'd never have this problem with a manual...

sweetmate

55 posts

122 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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this is what its like when you go food shopping in a gallardo


smilo996

2,799 posts

171 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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vorsprung durch technik - unfortunately.

Cobnapint

8,636 posts

152 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Hmmm. Sounds like it's a daily driver ONLY with that dicky steering and high speed understeer.

Too compromised to worry Ferrari and McLaren.

It will, of course, look and sound fantastic doing the rounds in Kensington.

mikebradford

2,524 posts

146 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Love the looks
But overall i feel Dan was being very polite, as i feel this car is lagging behind its direct rivals.
Considering it has just been launched that doesnt bode well for the future

I imagine at somepoint they will have to accept defeat and go down the downsized turbo charged route. At that point with the steering resolved i imagine it will be a great package.
Although i acccept that the sound of the current engine is superb

DoctorX

7,306 posts

168 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Whatever it drives like I think that looks superb. Preferably a coat of paint on top of the primer though.

macdeb

8,520 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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Want! Badly [but the price? oh, and the instrument readout hurl]
analogue gauges please I don't wish to know what my central heating at home is doing.
[still want]

macdeb

8,520 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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sweetmate said:
this is what its like when you go food shopping in a gallardo

Why would you go food shopping in one? confused

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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macdeb said:
sweetmate said:
this is what its like when you go food shopping in a gallardo

Why would you go food shopping in one? confused
Why wouldn't you?

MyCC

337 posts

158 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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The reviews for the Aventador were not exactly glowing when it first came out, hasn't stopped them selling loads of them. A Lambo customer is very different in profile to a McLaren one that's for sure, so how it drives at the limit or on a track will not worry many. It looks suitably striking and that's all that will matter for most.

Regards,

MyCC.

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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The Gallardo was ace as it was striking at the time

Can't get excited about this and the gearbox sounds awful!

goron59

397 posts

172 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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g4ry13 said:
monthefish said:
What happened at 0:37 - was that it bouncing off the limiter?

ETA and 1:41. Who is that driving????
Also 1:23 or just after.
Dan probably needed a bit more time to learn how to drive it. I do this when driving cars that redline well below 8k. Just needs some getting used to.

He also seemed to be hanging on to the top of the wheel for dear life at some points... not a relaxed driving posture at all.


goron59

397 posts

172 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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macdeb said:
sweetmate said:
this is what its like when you go food shopping in a gallardo

Why would you go food shopping in one? confused
Because it's better than walking?
I find the 'boot' in the R8 (same sort of size) is actually quite good because it's deep and not so wide, so 3 Trader Joe bags for life fit perfectly and don't rattle about smile

GALLARDOGUY

8,160 posts

220 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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sweetmate said:
this is what its like when you go food shopping in a gallardo

Relevant how?

As for Huracan, I'm disappointed by its look and now in its first reviews.

What a shame.

Just can't see myself buying one.

articulatedj

102 posts

122 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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I am sure that the fifteen iterations that follow will fix some of this stuff, including (hopefully) the insufficient brakes.

I also think that the dual clutch boxes have gotten so good that most people probably don't even bother with paddle upshifts on the track. Good technologically, but sad for those of us who still prefer manuals.

It is a shame they didn't let you try the non-dynamic steering.

zorba_the_greek

697 posts

223 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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What a car!

Waht a track!!

AV12

5,305 posts

209 months

Thursday 1st May 2014
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So, it's a bit rubbish, then?

Obviously "rubbish" is completely relative, but...the steering?

Sounds like Lamborghini have fallen up their own backside.

The 4 year old 458 has nothing to worry about, let alone the 650S...

All IMHO