RE: Civic Type R seen undisguised

RE: Civic Type R seen undisguised

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is1

188 posts

149 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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Nothing wrong with the way it looks. The finished version will obviously have passed Honda QC and might be a little toned down. The looks may even help it stand out from what is a fairly crowded market and/but by the same token may see it have a small but loyal following.
I fear it has other obstacles to overcome. I wonder what Honda's sales targets for this are?
What is the USP? Why have one of these over say, a Fiesta ST, or for the more discerning, a GT86/BRZ? I know the latter is not a hatch but there's a lot of competition about at the moment.
In the past, a Type R stood out. High revving N/A motors because that's what Honda believed in and everyone else could GTFO. That was a USP.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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Nothing wrong with 2 pipes. 4 may be pushing it, but I guess it could be to bring droning sounds down.

PH are you fking kidding me, 1 exhaust?? That would bring that nasty trashy fartbox cherrybomb baked bean can type sound. Absolutely 100% hate it.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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Dry cereal box jokes

lauda said:
It does look like it's crashed through a branch of Halfords but then again, so did the Megane R26.R and I'd happily drive one of those. Well, sort of happily. I know I'd look a tit, but I'd be prepared to accept that due to how good the car is to drive.

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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Do Halfords sell bits like that????

hornetrider said:
yes

They look absolutely horrendous, like stick on Halfords tat frown

MB 1

525 posts

186 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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I CGAF what others thought. It will be superb to drive and in my eyes looks hard as nails, like a mini btcc racer.

MustardCutter

238 posts

121 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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hora said:
So many cars out there that don't scream FAST! TURBOO! BHP! Yet are fast, swift and capable. Why does it have to look so theatrical?
Because some people have the opposite opinion to you. Not everyone wants to drive a car that looks virtually the same as the ecobluetecsavetherainbow version; examples being golf gtis and current leon cupra.

When a subtle looking car gets released people complain they are dull, when aggressively styled cars get released people complain they too shouty.

In other words there are other cars that cater to your opinion.

philis

415 posts

218 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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As long as i dont have to go anywhere near one of these, or look at one or god forbid be seen in one then im not bothered.
Who sat down and drew that thinking it will sell?

Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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Actus Reus said:
Do people really think that 4 exhausts would be OK if it had a V8, but not OK because it has a 4 cylinder? Is that really how car styling works - you have to know what displacement the engine is and/or its configuration. By that token do twin exhaust cars need MORE exhausts?

Utter cobblers.
I don't understand your post. 4 exhausts are OK when there's an engineering reason (and not to artificially mess with the sound either). All this tat does is add extra weight (even if the extra trim is fake it's still extra weight) and make the driver look like a knob. - It's just as sad as a biplane wing on a Daewoo Matiz.

LuS1fer

41,136 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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MustardCutter said:
hora said:
So many cars out there that don't scream FAST! TURBOO! BHP! Yet are fast, swift and capable. Why does it have to look so theatrical?
Because some people have the opposite opinion to you. Not everyone wants to drive a car that looks virtually the same as the ecobluetecsavetherainbow version; examples being golf gtis and current leon cupra.

When a subtle looking car gets released people complain they are dull, when aggressively styled cars get released people complain they too shouty.

In other words there are other cars that cater to your opinion.
I think the point here is that Honda have traditionally been reserved. Being crass and shouty never did any harm to the Focus RS but when you see one of those, you still think Essex. I would not buy this, based on the looks alone and the Megane 275 Cup is a far better solution.

I just wonder whether it needs these addenda to crack the 'Ring record though.

ToothbrushMan

1,770 posts

126 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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hideous...that front arch extension is bad enough but check out the rear one!
nothing on the door then out pops an extension on the arch in a big slab.

the comment about the Halfords trip is unfair to Halfords IMHO.

sometimes a great engine just will never make up for driving something that fell off the top branch of thwe ugly tree. you may always turn around at night as you lock it up but youll always be thinking what was Honda thinking!

the fast and furious brigade would even shy away from such a hash up.....even that generation have some taste.

Nezquick

1,461 posts

127 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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I owned an EP3 Type-R for 6 years and it was the best car i've ever had. Understated, quick, reliable....everything a hot hatch should be.

This one, on the other hand, looks utterly hideous. I get the impression Honda are trying too hard to find a market that isn't there.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

197 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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chrisemersons said:
Anybody over the age of 25 driving that is going to look a proper tit !!!
As I'm fast approaching double that age does that mean I'll have a pair then?!?

I want to replace my DC5, thought about the FD2 but having an import is a real ball-ache.

So if this turns out to be any good, I'll be buying one and I'm looking forward to sticking my middle-finger upto the haters on here as I don't give a flying fk what you think.




smile


zebra

4,555 posts

215 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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That looks totally gash compared to previous generations, as well as the cars it is up against.

Poor.

Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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mp3manager said:
So if this turns out to be any good, I'll be buying one and I'm looking forward to sticking my middle-finger upto the haters on here as I don't give a flying fk what you think.




smile
And neither should you. smile

Just a thought though: It may be one of the rare cases where the aftermarket ends-up being more subtle than the factory look.

Escort3500

11,915 posts

146 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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SidewaysSi said:
Love it. If Honda are back on song and make it drive and go like it should, who cares how it looks?

No hot hatch other than a VAG car is remotely classy anyway. With Honda engineering surely it is in with a good chance of becoming a class leader?
Yeah, I'd happily shell out my hard earned for a car that looks so pig ugly smile

-Ad-

887 posts

176 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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The rear lights look very: 'These damn things just won't go all the way in until flush. Bah, close enough'

Horrible looking thing and pointless with 4 exhaust. Extra weight, extra tubing and exits that are all not required, just stick with a decent single backbox!

Hugs DC2 biggrin

Raptor222

47 posts

134 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Terminator X said:
Just leave this here wink



TX.
That looks even worse than the new upcoming one.. frown As Rough as a dogs ....

Ali_T

Original Poster:

3,379 posts

258 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Nikko 40691 said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but Pininfarina have never designed a Civic?
They did the Honda Beat but I'm certain not the Civic...
They did far more than that as unnamed "consultants". The relationship began in 1982. LJK Setright wrote about it years ago in Car. Honda designers were also sent to Pininfarina to work as interns for a while, the last design coming from that relationship being the DC5 Integra.

micksims

31 posts

198 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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Looks like Batman's runaround for doing the shopping!! smile

jezhumphrey75

226 posts

149 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Raptor222 said:
That looks even worse than the new upcoming one.. frown As Rough as a dogs ....
wtf