RE: Maserati Ghibli Cup: PH Heroes

[s m]

Fantuzzi said:

Any chance of the rest of the scans?

http://www.maseraticlub.co.uk/trident34.htm

^ This site has some sections of reviews from Andrew Frankel and EVO as well.

If it looked like a shamal (ok they are pretty similar but the Shamal looks just, 'right-er'), It would perfect.

That was the prose to go with the pics? Or did you mean a different article?

[Fantuzzi]

s m said:

Fantuzzi said:

Any chance of the rest of the scans?

http://www.maseraticlub.co.uk/trident34.htm

^ This site has some sections of reviews from Andrew Frankel and EVO as well.

If it looked like a shamal (ok they are pretty similar but the Shamal looks just, 'right-er'), It would perfect.

That was the prose to go with the pics? Or did you mean a different article?

Sorry! Thought there was another page, thought the little autocar end symbol was a little symbol with an arrow in it.

My mistake.

[Ozzie Osmond]

chelme said:

Definitely one to park your money on. So rare, so capable and charismatic...

Back in the day I had a long hard look at those.

One of the most savagely unreliable and expensive cars ever built. Approach with extreme caution!

[Goodsteed]

blasos said:

Pistonheads said:

In an era where car makers struggled to break 100hp per litre

Really?

102 bhp/litre - 1995 - Toyota Levin/Trueno 165 PS/163 bhp from 1.6 litres.
106 bhp/litre - 1992 - Honda Civic SiR 170 PS/167 bhp from 1.6 litres.
108 bhp/litre - 1992 - Mitsubishi Mirage Cyborg 175 PS/173 bhp from 1.6 litres.
110 bhp/litre - 1995 - Honda Integra Type-R 200 PS/197 bhp from 1.8 litres
123 bhp/litre - 1997 - Nissan Pulsar VZR N1 200 PS/197 bhp from 1.6 litres.

All naturally aspirated.

All of the following were contemporaries with over 100 bhp/litre:

Skyline, Glanza V, 180SX, Silvia, Impreza WRX, Legacy, Forester, Lancer Evo, Mazda 323, RX7.

Edited by blasos on Wednesday 21st May 13:52

Impressive list, but the RX7 is cheating as Mazda only quote 1/3 of the true swept capacity.

[daveco]

Love the look of them, like an E30 M3 on steroids.

Wasn't there a saloon version in Godfather part III??

[haroonok]

Quattroporte!

[Schermerhorn]

Anyone remember the Maserati Quattroporte Octillindri of the same vintage?

Now that was one cool looking car.

[viggyp]

s m said:

This was even quicker than the Ghibli according to one test

Looks like a large Lancia Fulvia at the rear quarter.

[carl_w]

article said:

Just 26 right-hand drive Cups were made

and now only 40 remain...

There was a time when at least half a dozen "Cups" were for sale on PH Classifieds, which seemed a large proportion of the total.

[s m]

viggyp said:

s m said:

This was even quicker than the Ghibli according to one test

Looks like a large Lancia Fulvia at the rear quarter.

80s styling for the Karif - nearly a decade before the Autocar article in the opening story

[swindler]

X19 Lido said:

The interior was brill all leather and carbon plus that clock it was as good as any car I have had. I did have some rust issues from day one that were sorted by Meridian but I sold it 2 years later as all the work had to be done by them down on the South Coast but they usually sent a guy up by train to pick it up and drop it off.

They do look fantastic, chunkier than the pics suggest. There was French Blue one in Harrogate in the 90s. BUT..."rust from day one"...ugh!

[soad]

Never seen one, and didn't know it existed. Seems a (super) rare "forgotten" car?
Looks good to me too.

[GravelBen]

Love the Ghibli and Shamal, and have a soft spot for the later 3200GT as well. Don't know if I'll ever be game enough (or rich enough) to own one and look after it properly though.

[MonkeySpanker]

viggyp said:

s m said:

This was even quicker than the Ghibli according to one test

Looks like a large Lancia Fulvia at the rear quarter.

I was thinking more Gamma Coupe

[s m]

daveco said:

Love the look of them, like an E30 M3 on steroids.

Maybe that was the attraction for the people part-exchanging who were mentioned at the end of the Autocar article?

[zeppelin101]

Goodsteed said:

Impressive list, but the RX7 is cheating as Mazda only quote 1/3 of the true swept capacity.

Wrong. When the RX-8 was being measured against its peers for international engine of the year it was categorised (correctly) as a 2.6 on account of having twice as many power strokes as a traditional reciprocating 4 stroke.

In no way is a rotary ever categorised as 3x the combustion chamber volume.

[crostonian]

MonkeySpanker said:

I was thinking more Gamma Coupe

The Karif was effectively a Biturbo Spyder with a hard top, not one of Maserati's best design efforts although given the budgets they were working with back then not surprising it was a bit of a lash up. Seem to remember the pre-production cars were quoted at 285bhp hence the headline 0-60 figure however production cars got the regular 245bhp 2.8 V6 export market engine, still a quick car nevertheless.

Going back to the Ghibli, Italian market cars had the 2 litre V6 Twin Turbo as standard albeit with only 306bhp.

[Lost soul]

British Beef said:

although some military grade man maths required to justify one on speculative value!

[Lost soul]

crostonian said:

Going back to the Ghibli, Italian market cars had the 2 litre V6 Twin Turbo as standard albeit with only 306bhp.

Some strange tax law , there were a few 2lt Italian market specials including a 308 2lt I seem to remember

[Kinell]

Love the giant Lambert & Butler intakes!