RE: Jaguar XFR-S Sportbrake: Review
Discussion
dukebox9reg said:
Which one? The RR and RRS are only just out and wont be replaced for a while yet. Evoque is arguably up for renewal but that is the ultimate posers 4x4 car. New Jag SUV should be more like it though being more road biased like the Macan.
The Jags do make the best shouty noise for me, then AMG, they are doing the best job of making turbos sound good. BMW not so. Not heard the new RS6 engine yet so cant comment.
http://youtu.be/OD2GrPgWnjgThe Jags do make the best shouty noise for me, then AMG, they are doing the best job of making turbos sound good. BMW not so. Not heard the new RS6 engine yet so cant comment.
Wait for 0:47.
Edited by Looket on Thursday 29th May 12:12
St John Smythe said:
SpeckledJim said:
Grace fail.
Super oily bits, but does the body kit have to be quite so gauche?
This is naff. It fails the funeral test by a thousand miles. And every Jaguar should pass the funeral test, however fast it is.
I think this is exactly what Jag are trying to get away from! Super oily bits, but does the body kit have to be quite so gauche?
This is naff. It fails the funeral test by a thousand miles. And every Jaguar should pass the funeral test, however fast it is.
This is just a brand extension exercise helping Jaguar to firmly shift its old man image in advance of seriously sporting future models. Jaguar really are helping to carve out a name for themselves as the premium brand of choice for driving enthusiasts. Both BMW and Maserati seemed to have lost their way on that front.
Regards,
MyCC.
Regards,
MyCC.
If this was an article about a BMW, Audi or Mercedes, the car would be getting slated pretty badly, and pretty much everyone will be saying how dull it is, doesn't matter if it has 500-600 bhp, and how expensive it is...
£82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
£82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
Amirhussain said:
If this was an article about a BMW, Audi or Mercedes, the car would be getting slated pretty badly, and pretty much everyone will be saying how dull it is, doesn't matter if it has 500-600 bhp, and how expensive it is...
£82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
You forget the Jag has most the options already being the flagship. It's the German wagons that tend to be + options more of the time to actually get the car you want and is actually tested and lauded by the press. £82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
Just nipping to Ikea........
Sorry I don't understand the thinking when people ask why this (or cars like it) exist, or get hung up on 3 year lease plans & depreciation. Some cars are mere tools, a means of transportation....others, however, are more than that & I for one celebrate their mere existence. Can I afford one, no, probably never but that wouldn't make me begrudge them being built.
Sorry I don't understand the thinking when people ask why this (or cars like it) exist, or get hung up on 3 year lease plans & depreciation. Some cars are mere tools, a means of transportation....others, however, are more than that & I for one celebrate their mere existence. Can I afford one, no, probably never but that wouldn't make me begrudge them being built.
Looket said:
dukebox9reg said:
Which one? The RR and RRS are only just out and wont be replaced for a while yet. Evoque is arguably up for renewal but that is the ultimate posers 4x4 car. New Jag SUV should be more like it though being more road biased like the Macan.
The Jags do make the best shouty noise for me, then AMG, they are doing the best job of making turbos sound good. BMW not so. Not heard the new RS6 engine yet so cant comment.
http://youtu.be/OD2GrPgWnjgThe Jags do make the best shouty noise for me, then AMG, they are doing the best job of making turbos sound good. BMW not so. Not heard the new RS6 engine yet so cant comment.
Wait for 0:47.
Edited by Looket on Thursday 29th May 12:12
I think that AMG and Jag nail the exhaust note the best with their standard systems.
SpeckledJim said:
St John Smythe said:
SpeckledJim said:
Grace fail.
Super oily bits, but does the body kit have to be quite so gauche?
This is naff. It fails the funeral test by a thousand miles. And every Jaguar should pass the funeral test, however fast it is.
I think this is exactly what Jag are trying to get away from! Super oily bits, but does the body kit have to be quite so gauche?
This is naff. It fails the funeral test by a thousand miles. And every Jaguar should pass the funeral test, however fast it is.
I have never aspired to an Audi, and you'll see that I've got a history of Jaguars including a green one with cream interior and maple dashboard.
My wife loves our Jags but is still in her late 20s and I'm 33. We wanted something with the performance of our Cerbera and exciting to drive but refined, every-day useable for my wife who is an enthusiastic driver but a full-time mother so the car had to be capable of carrying our children about plus a big boot for going on trips. There was an XKR which was nice and an XKR-S which was more expensive. We started out looking to spend £23k on a BMW that day, then a £33k XKR, dismissed the £55k XKR-S when the kids clearly wouldn't fit in the XKR then resigned to needing an XF of some sort. XJs are ok but too big to park in the sorts of carparks we need to go to and I don't like the back end much. It's also a bit mature still which I personally wanted to get away from and an XJR is close to £100k which I felt would be too big a financial sacrifice to our lifestyle if I used the BMW money as deposit and got the rest on finance.
She test drove a V6 diesel XF and liked the similarity to our S-Type in terms of its chassis and controls feel and layout, but didn't like the engine. We thought about an XFR last year, thinking sensible colours etc but it's just not that special when you can now buy a 2.2 diesel aRSeport which looks the same, and whilst nice and engaging the S-Type chassis is beyond its best with 500bhp.
We saw the XFR-S, particularly in bright blue with a big spoiler as light hearted, clearly unusual (since you can't buy a 2.2d in French Racing Blue), very fast if you want yet perfectly useable and takes all our favourite things about the S-Type's dynamics and improves on it all.
Whether you think it looks gauche or not may or may not matter. I had been planning to buy a used BMW V10 M6 the day I left my deposit for the XFR-S because I've had 3 old-man Jags already and whilst nice, I wanted something more and a bit more fun. The XFR-S has meant Jaguar has had a sale out of me that they probably wouldn't have had otherwise because I didn't really find the XFR all that compelling as a package.
DS3R said:
They are good at discounting. And they'll have to be. No-one would pay list I'm sure.
But wouldn't anyone have a massive smile on their face if they had one
There's no manufacturer assistance offered at present on the RS models because they're limited run. The dealers will discount what they can, and you get £1200 or whatever for taking Jaguar finance but that's neither here nor there in the grand scheme of things.But wouldn't anyone have a massive smile on their face if they had one
dukebox9reg said:
Amirhussain said:
If this was an article about a BMW, Audi or Mercedes, the car would be getting slated pretty badly, and pretty much everyone will be saying how dull it is, doesn't matter if it has 500-600 bhp, and how expensive it is...
£82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
You forget the Jag has most the options already being the flagship. It's the German wagons that tend to be + options more of the time to actually get the car you want and is actually tested and lauded by the press. £82k+ before options, and people complain that German cars are too expensive
jamieduff1981 said:
I disagree. Ok it's the saloon rather than the estate but I've bought one. With the big carbon fibre spoiler. In French Racing Blue.
I have never aspired to an Audi, and you'll see that I've got a history of Jaguars including a green one with cream interior and maple dashboard.
My wife loves our Jags but is still in her late 20s and I'm 33. We wanted something with the performance of our Cerbera and exciting to drive but refined, every-day useable for my wife who is an enthusiastic driver but a full-time mother so the car had to be capable of carrying our children about plus a big boot for going on trips. There was an XKR which was nice and an XKR-S which was more expensive. We started out looking to spend £23k on a BMW that day, then a £33k XKR, dismissed the £55k XKR-S when the kids clearly wouldn't fit in the XKR then resigned to needing an XF of some sort. XJs are ok but too big to park in the sorts of carparks we need to go to and I don't like the back end much. It's also a bit mature still which I personally wanted to get away from and an XJR is close to £100k which I felt would be too big a financial sacrifice to our lifestyle if I used the BMW money as deposit and got the rest on finance.
She test drove a V6 diesel XF and liked the similarity to our S-Type in terms of its chassis and controls feel and layout, but didn't like the engine. We thought about an XFR last year, thinking sensible colours etc but it's just not that special when you can now buy a 2.2 diesel aRSeport which looks the same, and whilst nice and engaging the S-Type chassis is beyond its best with 500bhp.
We saw the XFR-S, particularly in bright blue with a big spoiler as light hearted, clearly unusual (since you can't buy a 2.2d in French Racing Blue), very fast if you want yet perfectly useable and takes all our favourite things about the S-Type's dynamics and improves on it all.
Whether you think it looks gauche or not may or may not matter. I had been planning to buy a used BMW V10 M6 the day I left my deposit for the XFR-S because I've had 3 old-man Jags already and whilst nice, I wanted something more and a bit more fun. The XFR-S has meant Jaguar has had a sale out of me that they probably wouldn't have had otherwise because I didn't really find the XFR all that compelling as a package.
Came into this thread expecting you to whip up a storm! You know me as Craig S..., Jediali being my lurking identity. Your brief explanation puts a car like this into good perspective. This review brings a lot of good praise too so I guess it can only make you more excited about the new car arriving.I have never aspired to an Audi, and you'll see that I've got a history of Jaguars including a green one with cream interior and maple dashboard.
My wife loves our Jags but is still in her late 20s and I'm 33. We wanted something with the performance of our Cerbera and exciting to drive but refined, every-day useable for my wife who is an enthusiastic driver but a full-time mother so the car had to be capable of carrying our children about plus a big boot for going on trips. There was an XKR which was nice and an XKR-S which was more expensive. We started out looking to spend £23k on a BMW that day, then a £33k XKR, dismissed the £55k XKR-S when the kids clearly wouldn't fit in the XKR then resigned to needing an XF of some sort. XJs are ok but too big to park in the sorts of carparks we need to go to and I don't like the back end much. It's also a bit mature still which I personally wanted to get away from and an XJR is close to £100k which I felt would be too big a financial sacrifice to our lifestyle if I used the BMW money as deposit and got the rest on finance.
She test drove a V6 diesel XF and liked the similarity to our S-Type in terms of its chassis and controls feel and layout, but didn't like the engine. We thought about an XFR last year, thinking sensible colours etc but it's just not that special when you can now buy a 2.2 diesel aRSeport which looks the same, and whilst nice and engaging the S-Type chassis is beyond its best with 500bhp.
We saw the XFR-S, particularly in bright blue with a big spoiler as light hearted, clearly unusual (since you can't buy a 2.2d in French Racing Blue), very fast if you want yet perfectly useable and takes all our favourite things about the S-Type's dynamics and improves on it all.
Whether you think it looks gauche or not may or may not matter. I had been planning to buy a used BMW V10 M6 the day I left my deposit for the XFR-S because I've had 3 old-man Jags already and whilst nice, I wanted something more and a bit more fun. The XFR-S has meant Jaguar has had a sale out of me that they probably wouldn't have had otherwise because I didn't really find the XFR all that compelling as a package.
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