RE: £10K motorway speeding fines

[aww999]

Someone mentioned that "at 85-90 you won't get pulled as everyone else is doing the same". I did four hours of motorway driving a few days back, cruise set at 80mph on the dash, 77 on the sat nav, and only three cars passed me. This was light traffic, good visibility, dry weather.

No one would be too concerned about this, or any other speeding story, if the limits were set better. 100 mph on the motorway and an end to mile after mile of specs enforced 50mph limits on perfectly ordinary (no roadworks!) dual carriageways and a-roads would be a good start!

[RichB]

robinessex said:

119 posts so far, I wonder how many of the posters belong to the ABD? Less than 1% I reckon. So, pissed of off most of you will be, but you only have yourselves to blame if you don't belong to the only organisation that tries to keep the war on motorists at bay. £30/yr ain't much. http://www.abd.org.uk/

I'm a member so that's two of us.

[anonymous-user]

woof said:

I was specifically talking about the new digital 4 lane (hidden) cameras that have been installed M25 junc 23-24 and in the southern section

You can break the speed limit on the M25?

Seriously though, at its peak under Labour speeding revenue was £90 million (it's thought to be less than half that now).

Last year the revenue raised that went to the treasury was £612 billion.

£40 million in a pot of £612 billion for all that hassle?

[Lazygraduate]

Lowtimer said:

robinessex said:

119 posts so far, I wonder how many of the posters belong to the ABD? Less than 1% I reckon. So, pissed of off most of you will be, but you only have yourselves to blame if you don't belong to the only organisation that tries to keep the war on motorists at bay. £30/yr ain't much. http://www.abd.org.uk/

I'm not pissed off, and don't consider this to be a war on motorists. Does that help?

+1

In addition, I've never heard of them and, judging by their website, I'm not surprised.

[RemarkLima]

Lowtimer said:

Also, if you are doing any speed more than 130kph on an unrestricted section of the autobahn and you _do_ get involved in an accident, then the police take a very different view than if you had been travelling at less the 130 kph (which is the 'advisory' maximum even where a legal limit is not in place).

Edited by Lowtimer on Wednesday 11th June 13:25

A German friend of mine also pointed out that over 130 kmph most insurance policies become void. So yes, you can do 200 kmph on the autobahns, but you're on your own at that point...

[KMB]

dcb said:

KMB said:

Even in Germany the autobahns seem to only have short unrestricted sections these days.

Nonsense. Most of the German autobahn is de-restricted.

Interestingly, the #1 killer on motorways in the UK is inattention, not speed.

I find it really saddening when politicos put forward policies
that are claimed to be saving lives but are contradictory to known,
established and accepted traffic science.

Politician's logic, I guess. Shame I have to pay for it.

I'll be spending a lot more time on the cruise control, concentrating
on the radio, in future, it seems.

I work there typically for around a month in total every year, always driving and often long distances.

I admit 'short' is relative, to me this could be 30-40km. However, this is not nonsense, either you do not understand the Autobahn signage or you are always taking the same route/area.

[dcb]

RemarkLima said:

A German friend of mine also pointed out that over 130 kmph most insurance policies become void. So yes, you can do 200 kmph on the autobahns, but you're on your own at that point...

There's a sliding scale on the insurance policies.

160 - 180 kmh are perfectly ordinary speeds. You'll surprise no one going that slowly
and have plenty of folks wanting to get past.

Most drivers seem capable of operating a pedal down near their feet to moderate
their speeds when they need to.

Indeed, few drivers are inattentive enough to go 200 kmh full on into trouble without
reacting appropriately.

Given the 250 kmh limiters on some cars, that seems to be the practical
definition of "quite fast enough really".

[dcb]

KMB said:

I work there typically for around a month in total every year, always driving and often long distances.

I admit 'short' is relative, to me this could be 30-40km. However, this is not nonsense, either you do not understand the Autobahn signage or you are always taking the same route/area.

The German autobahn network is about 12,000 km long.

About 75 % of it is unrestricted.

By definition, if that much of the network is unrestricted, then
the unrestricted sections aren't short, they are long.

Mind you, keeping up with traffic at 200 kmh will mean
the restricted sections will appear fairly frequently.