RE: Shed Of The Week: Honda Accord Type R

RE: Shed Of The Week: Honda Accord Type R

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kpb

305 posts

176 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Love the H22-series engine. Far more usable torque than they are given credit for.

TheAngryDog

12,409 posts

210 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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delmatt said:
If it said something like "lightened to just over 1300kg to the standard Accord at 1422kg it would mean something...as it is it doesn't mean much.

Sorry for being pedantic I cant help it today...will shut up now!
deeen said:
delmatt said:
The writing on this is somewhat poor....Lightened to just over 1,300kg compared to the standard Accord?????
Surely to make it easy to compare a comparison of difference is required here to make the wait loss relevant.
Sorry but...
I think he was referring to your incorrect spelling of weight (wait).


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Stoatman said:
Not worth the gamble in my opinion. You would spend more that the purchase price to get cam belt , aux belts , tensioner , valve clearances , rear calipers greased (prob knackered)
Totally agree. Probably a bit of a moneypit to be honest. You'd be better off buying an already sorted example for double the price.

Stoatman

592 posts

168 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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St John Smythe said:
Stoatman said:
Not worth the gamble in my opinion. You would spend more that the purchase price to get cam belt , aux belts , tensioner , valve clearances , rear calipers greased (prob knackered)
Totally agree. Probably a bit of a moneypit to be honest. You'd be better off buying an already sorted example for double the price.
Oh and the clutch.

I spent 2K+ sorting mine and it was double this purchase price. A rear ABS sensor was 300 quid, that was the last straw. Part for a focus , 20 quid or something . darn it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Stoatman said:
St John Smythe said:
Stoatman said:
Not worth the gamble in my opinion. You would spend more that the purchase price to get cam belt , aux belts , tensioner , valve clearances , rear calipers greased (prob knackered)
Totally agree. Probably a bit of a moneypit to be honest. You'd be better off buying an already sorted example for double the price.
Oh and the clutch.

I spent 2K+ sorting mine and it was double this purchase price. A rear ABS sensor was 300 quid, that was the last straw. Part for a focus , 20 quid or something . darn it.
Yep, I've bought enough old 'sports' cars to know exactly how this would go! smile

iloveboost

1,531 posts

163 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Riyazc said:
The police used to run a few of these i remember.

If you can find one without the rear spoiler (was a factory delete option) its a fantastic Q Car. Have come close to buying one a few times, but each time something has come up.

Be tempted to get one of these for around town and leave the 996 turbo in the garage.
I've never ever seen one without the spoiler to be honest I'd prefer it not to have it. As somebody has already fitted an induction/intake kit to that one it should sound like a BTCC car on VTEC. biggrin
That also implies it's more likely to have been thrashed thought so that would put me off (I know the engines are reliable it's just how I feel). I guess it's ok if it's just a cam belt or clutch it needs. I've seen many others for about £1.5K-2K that seem nicer.
I read the only 'faults' of the facelift models are the poor fuel economy for a four cylinder and the gear spacing drops you out of VTEC as someone said. I imagine you could get the rev limiter raised and/or VTEC lowered to get rid of that problem but that's hundreds of pounds you don't have to spend on it for a minor flaw.
I think it's a good 'shed' if it doesn't need anything but if it does it's no better than average really.

pSyCoSiS

3,601 posts

206 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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A good SOTW.

I have alot of respect for these. Lairy and sensible in one package.

Blackpuddin

16,555 posts

206 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Of course you could simply take the gamble and spend nowt on it, just run it as it is. The 4 year old, 50,000 mile cambelt on my Golf looked absolutely fine when it was changed last week.

HughG

3,549 posts

242 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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james_gt3rs said:
I'd like the engine from this in my MR2!
In principle that would be great, do you know if it would drop in ok?

Presumably it would need mounts, bellhousing to retain standard box, ancillaries swapped over with originals, ECU change or flash to run VTEC instead of VVTi, exhaust manifold, probably a bigger rad (as the standard MR2 one is pretty tiny as I recently discovered).

court

1,487 posts

217 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Neil G60 said:
A guy in Bristol used to run one of these as a taxi when I was at uni there back in c2000 and it seemed like a bloody rocket ship doing about 70mph in second up Park Street.
I also had the pleasure of that mental taxi back in the day. Astonishing speeds. The Impreza driving ones were even worse.

Ed Straker

221 posts

144 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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St John Smythe said:
Totally agree. Probably a bit of a moneypit to be honest. You'd be better off buying an already sorted example for double the price.
FFS.
To state the blindingly obvious - It wouldn't be SOTW then would it?!

MadDog1962

890 posts

163 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Sad engine bay always makes me think a car has been neglected, even if it is 13 years old. I would worry there are other gremlins lurking. I would want to know how when the MoT and tax expired also.

Having said that, these are pretty good cars. Provided the timing belts and clutch could be sorted out for less than £400 this is probably a reasonably good deal. I'd take that rear spoiler off as in the UK it's not really doing much other than attract plods attention to your fast shed.

fingersprice

51 posts

155 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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KimJongHealthy said:
Drakey52 said:
fingersprice said:
Comfortable??? Please

Over two years of owning one of these has ensured that I will spend the rest of my days with endless back pain. The ride is about a comfortable as going down a cobbled street in a shopping trolley.......
I think you must be pretty unlucky, one of the best riding "sporty" cars I had and I thought the seats were very comfortable on 3-4 hour motorway journeys. My only complaint was that the aircon was a bit weedy, suspect they used a small unit off a Civic or something to keep the weight down and power sapping the 8 ounces of torque it had under 4500rpm..
Chances are that fingersprice's car was "improved" by the previous owner's affection for ebay discounted lowering suspension..
It did come with some truly awful AGX adjustable shock absorbers when I bought it. Even after I managed to get hold of some stock shock absorbers & springs the ride was still awful.

The seats themselves were actually pretty comfortable and supportive, apart from needing regular adjustment but this was probably just down to the cars age.

Stoatman

592 posts

168 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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KimJongHealthy said:
I was advised to buy Honda OEM as it is obviously going to fit , by VTEC direct, in their exoerience the copies never fit right or work the same. A second hand one was an option but can be tricky to remove without damaging something.


anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Ed Straker said:
St John Smythe said:
Totally agree. Probably a bit of a moneypit to be honest. You'd be better off buying an already sorted example for double the price.
FFS.
To state the blindingly obvious - It wouldn't be SOTW then would it?!
Yea, thanks for that Columbo rolleyes

Stoatman

592 posts

168 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Ed Straker said:
FFS.
To state the blindingly obvious - It wouldn't be SOTW then would it?!
Dont think these respond well to neglect though and stuff needs to be attended too. YEs , you could buy it a be really lucky and just enjoy a year trouble free motoring. (This will definately not happen ).

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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Am I the only one seeing 50 shades of silver on the photos? judge

Escort Si-130

3,273 posts

181 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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These just look as boring as hell; having one of these to watch on a daily basis must be depressing; to make matters worse this one is in the most boring colour of them all SILVER!

SaqibCTR

467 posts

135 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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One of the great performance bargains. What happened to you Honda? (sigh)

james_gt3rs

4,816 posts

192 months

Friday 20th June 2014
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HughG said:
james_gt3rs said:
I'd like the engine from this in my MR2!
In principle that would be great, do you know if it would drop in ok?

Presumably it would need mounts, bellhousing to retain standard box, ancillaries swapped over with originals, ECU change or flash to run VTEC instead of VVTi, exhaust manifold, probably a bigger rad (as the standard MR2 one is pretty tiny as I recently discovered).
There's a much easier option in the mk3. The Toyota 2ZZ engine from the Elise 111R... it's apparently as easy as engine swaps go. Goes from 140bhp to 190bhp with shorter gearing in a car weighing <1000kg.

If you combined that with lower suspension, sticky tyres etc it would be a hell of a track car.