RE: Mercedes S-Class Coupe: Review

[EskimoArapaho]

Lovely ar5e, ugly face.

[Dagnut]

vtecyo said:

Wonderful.

Coming soon to a premiership football ground near you.

Let me ask you a couple of things.

1) have you ever been to a premiership football ground car park? How many premier league players do you actually know?

2) Can you name me one type of premium car you're not likely to see there?

Here's some ground breaking information for you, premier league footballers are wealthy, wealthy people buy expensive cars.

There are approx. 600 premier league footballers in Britain not all of which would be making more than 500k a year, probably only the first 22 would be, that leaves you with 440... if all of them even drive, if you targeted this tiny market you would need to be pretty inept at marketing a car.

Can we just put this ridiculous clarksonism to bed? footballers are not a target market for cars!

[mini1380cc]

speedjockey said:

BMW fails to offer RWD in Canada with the exception of the ///M cars & it's depressing.. Mercedes only RWD option over here is the C63 & SLS!

So what are they over there? FWD or AWD? I can't imagine a BMW not being RWD. What could possibly be gained by making FWD and RWD.

[kor0]

mini1380cc said:

So what are they over there? FWD or AWD? I can't imagine a BMW not being RWD. What could possibly be gained by making FWD and RWD.

FWD??

They probably get the xDrive/4matic variants only..
Because, you know, snow.

[Lordsmut]

zeppelin101 said:

Pommygranite said:

S Coupe

That's a Renault Laguna isn't it?

Nooo, it's a Mitsubishi FTO

[Atmospheric]

Just a minute.

S500 coupe has 448bhp and 516lb/ft? Quite incredible. Cars are just numbers now...

(I'd take a '63 in black, please)

Edited by Atmospheric on Wednesday 2nd July 08:05

[keiran]

Lordsmut said:

Nooo, it's a Mitsubishi FTO

Or a Panamera concept before the roofline was squashed...

[blindswelledrat]

toppstuff said:

At 125k its actually quite aggressively priced

Is it actually?
In this new language we are speaking, if it were relatively cheap would we call it submissively priced?

[Carnnoisseur]

Big fan of pillar-less coupes regardless, but this is simply stunning from every angle. Looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.

[Riyazc]

S500 coupe has 448bhp? Thats not a lot in this segment ...

FWIW my 2004 911 turbo has 450bhp as standard - and a lot quicker to 60 as well.

BUT ... if i needed a daily driver, and had the cash - that merc looks menacing!

Its not about the numbers

[CampDavid]

Dagnut said:

Let me ask you a couple of things.

1) have you ever been to a premiership football ground car park? How many premier league players do you actually know?

2) Can you name me one type of premium car you're not likely to see there?

Here's some ground breaking information for you, premier league footballers are wealthy, wealthy people buy expensive cars.

There are approx. 600 premier league footballers in Britain not all of which would be making more than 500k a year, probably only the first 22 would be, that leaves you with 440... if all of them even drive, if you targeted this tiny market you would need to be pretty inept at marketing a car.

Can we just put this ridiculous clarksonism to bed? footballers are not a target market for cars!

Nearly every premiership footballer is on more than £10,000 a week. Even Championship players get that now days

[Dagnut]

CampDavid said:

Dagnut said:

Let me ask you a couple of things.

1) have you ever been to a premiership football ground car park? How many premier league players do you actually know?

2) Can you name me one type of premium car you're not likely to see there?

Here's some ground breaking information for you, premier league footballers are wealthy, wealthy people buy expensive cars.

There are approx. 600 premier league footballers in Britain not all of which would be making more than 500k a year, probably only the first 22 would be, that leaves you with 440... if all of them even drive, if you targeted this tiny market you would need to be pretty inept at marketing a car.

Can we just put this ridiculous clarksonism to bed? footballers are not a target market for cars!

Nearly every premiership footballer is on more than £10,000 a week. Even Championship players get that now days

No they are not, players who aren't in the first 25 are making 10k a week? Maybe at the bigger clubs but reserve players at Hull and Place etc are not getting 10k a week, some of their first team don't make that

Then outside of smaller clubs there are probably 40 players who make up half of the salary costs for the entire premier league...Wayne Rooney gets paid 10 times more than his fist 11 team mate Januzaj, whose previous contract paid him 1k a week.

Just averaging out the wages at 40k and presuming that all players get in and around this is way off the mark..Man Citys average wage bill is 100k plus for first team player...they have at least 5 players on 200k plus

Southampton's entire wage bill was 52 million for 2014...the top 10 players are probably making 40k a week or so..that absorbs 20 million..leaving you with 32 million to pay about another 40 players on their books?
......and then your not counting Directors, managers, coaches, ground staff, IT staff, admin staff, match day stewards and security...blah blah the list goes on..the money is just not there to pay up and coming players the money you think they get.

From their website

Total group wages, including player wages, increased to £47.1m in 2013 from £28.7m in 2012
Read more at http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/31032014-fi...



Regardless of how much they are are earning it's still a very small market.

[Maldini35]

Dagnut said:

CampDavid said:

Dagnut said:

Let me ask you a couple of things.

1) have you ever been to a premiership football ground car park? How many premier league players do you actually know?

2) Can you name me one type of premium car you're not likely to see there?

Here's some ground breaking information for you, premier league footballers are wealthy, wealthy people buy expensive cars.

There are approx. 600 premier league footballers in Britain not all of which would be making more than 500k a year, probably only the first 22 would be, that leaves you with 440... if all of them even drive, if you targeted this tiny market you would need to be pretty inept at marketing a car.

Can we just put this ridiculous clarksonism to bed? footballers are not a target market for cars!

Nearly every premiership footballer is on more than £10,000 a week. Even Championship players get that now days

No they are not, players who aren't in the first 25 are making 10k a week? Maybe at the bigger clubs but reserve players at Hull and Place etc are not getting 10k a week, some of their first team don't make that

Then outside of smaller clubs there are probably 40 players who make up half of the salary costs for the entire premier league...Wayne Rooney gets paid 10 times more than his fist 11 team mate Januzaj, whose previous contract paid him 1k a week.

Just averaging out the wages at 40k and presuming that all players get in and around this is way off the mark..Man Citys average wage bill is 100k plus for first team player...they have at least 5 players on 200k plus

Southampton's entire wage bill was 52 million for 2014...the top 10 players are probably making 40k a week or so..that absorbs 20 million..leaving you with 32 million to pay about another 40 players on their books?
......and then your not counting Directors, managers, coaches, ground staff, IT staff, admin staff, match day stewards and security...blah blah the list goes on..the money is just not there to pay up and coming players the money you think they get.

From their website

Total group wages, including player wages, increased to £47.1m in 2013 from £28.7m in 2012
Read more at http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/31032014-fi...


Regardless of how much they are are earning it's still a very small market.

You miss the point entirely.
He never said Premiership footballers are the only market.
The point being made is most Premiership footballers are richer than Croesus and, as a rule, purveyors of bad taste with a healthy appetite for the vulgar.
As such some of them will buy this car - after all, it's prohibitively expensive and will be regarded by most people (maybe not PH'ers) as a vulgar display of conspicuous consumption.
Hence the comment "soon to be seen at Premiership grounds around the country".

Edited by Maldini35 on Thursday 3rd July 18:34

[kambites]

I'd argue it's more restrained than its competitions - which is saying approximately nothing.

[Dagnut]

Maldini35 said:

You miss the point entirely.
He never said Premiership footballers are the only market.
The point being made is most Premiership footballers are richer than Croesus and, as a rule, purveyors of bad taste with a healthy appetite for the vulgar.
As such some of them will buy this car - after all, it's prohibitively expensive and will be regarded by most people (maybe not PH'ers) as a vulgar display of conspicuous consumption.
Hence the comment "soon to be seen at Premiership grounds around the country".

Edited by Maldini35 on Thursday 3rd July 18:34

We'll you missed my original post then, if it's a matter of taste, why don't you name a 100k + coupe you won't see a footballer driving ? You should take a trip to Knightsbridge if you want to see vulgar expensive cars or what ever fits your definition.
The implication is that if a car is " vulgar", it will appeal to footballers , or that if a footballer chooses a car it , by association , becomes vulgar. That's just horsest. You will see footballers, just as you will see in any walk of life, driving a wide range of cars from classic cars, astons, suvs , ferraris , buggattis ...modest family cars.
As a highlighted above well paid footballers are a rare breed, spread across the country, you're more fair likely to see " conspicuous consumption" in around the city of London and chelsea...but hey don't let facts and figures get in the away of some good old fashioned snobbery

[Lost soul]

Riyazc said:

S500 coupe has 448bhp? Thats not a lot in this segment ...

FWIW my 2004 911 turbo has 450bhp as standard - and a lot quicker to 60 as well.

BUT ... if i needed a daily driver, and had the cash - that merc looks menacing!

Its not about the numbers

448 is plenty in the segment , 911TT is not in the same segment is it

[Atmospheric]

Exactly.

[Maldini35]

Dagnut said:

Maldini35 said:

You miss the point entirely.
He never said Premiership footballers are the only market.
The point being made is most Premiership footballers are richer than Croesus and, as a rule, purveyors of bad taste with a healthy appetite for the vulgar.
As such some of them will buy this car - after all, it's prohibitively expensive and will be regarded by most people (maybe not PH'ers) as a vulgar display of conspicuous consumption.
Hence the comment "soon to be seen at Premiership grounds around the country".

Edited by Maldini35 on Thursday 3rd July 18:34

We'll you missed my original post then, if it's a matter of taste, why don't you name a 100k + coupe you won't see a footballer driving ? You should take a trip to Knightsbridge if you want to see vulgar expensive cars or what ever fits your definition.
The implication is that if a car is " vulgar", it will appeal to footballers , or that if a footballer chooses a car it , by association , becomes vulgar. That's just horsest. You will see footballers, just as you will see in any walk of life, driving a wide range of cars from classic cars, astons, suvs , ferraris , buggattis ...modest family cars.
As a highlighted above well paid footballers are a rare breed, spread across the country, you're more fair likely to see " conspicuous consumption" in around the city of London and chelsea...but hey don't let facts and figures get in the away of some good old fashioned snobbery

It's a stereotype.
Unfortunately there are plenty of high profile footballers who fit this stereotype.
Of course there are plenty that don't but that's how stereotypes work.
The OP might well have said, 'soon to be seen hooning outside Harrods by young arab princes'. Again, not all arab princes do this but the few that do are pretty conspicuous.
Footballers earning £200k per week will always be a soft target. It comes with the territory - don't expect anybody to feel sorry for them.
Same goes for bankers.
I really can't see what you're getting so upset about.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Dagnut]

Maldini35 said:

Dagnut said:

Maldini35 said:

You miss the point entirely.
He never said Premiership footballers are the only market.
The point being made is most Premiership footballers are richer than Croesus and, as a rule, purveyors of bad taste with a healthy appetite for the vulgar.
As such some of them will buy this car - after all, it's prohibitively expensive and will be regarded by most people (maybe not PH'ers) as a vulgar display of conspicuous consumption.
Hence the comment "soon to be seen at Premiership grounds around the country".

Edited by Maldini35 on Thursday 3rd July 18:34

We'll you missed my original post then, if it's a matter of taste, why don't you name a 100k + coupe you won't see a footballer driving ? You should take a trip to Knightsbridge if you want to see vulgar expensive cars or what ever fits your definition.
The implication is that if a car is " vulgar", it will appeal to footballers , or that if a footballer chooses a car it , by association , becomes vulgar. That's just horsest. You will see footballers, just as you will see in any walk of life, driving a wide range of cars from classic cars, astons, suvs , ferraris , buggattis ...modest family cars.
As a highlighted above well paid footballers are a rare breed, spread across the country, you're more fair likely to see " conspicuous consumption" in around the city of London and chelsea...but hey don't let facts and figures get in the away of some good old fashioned snobbery

It's a stereotype.
Unfortunately there are plenty of high profile footballers who fit this stereotype.
Of course there are plenty that don't but that's how stereotypes work.
The OP might well have said, 'soon to be seen hooning outside Harrods by young arab princes'. Again, not all arab princes do this but the few that do are pretty conspicuous.
Footballers earning £200k per week will always be a soft target. It comes with the territory - don't expect anybody to feel sorry for them.
Same goes for bankers.
I really can't see what you're getting so upset about.
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I'm not even slightly upset, I don't care about footballers, they are so few of them it is waste of time...it's just Clarkson nonsense that people devoid of any imagination continue to perpetuate and I'm sick of reading.

[dandare]

Ha haaa. That looks ridiculous. Quite the opposite of elegance.
Seems to have some support on PH though.