Do you use parent and child spaces without children?
Discussion
We have a 3 year-old and use them. She can climb in, just, but needs help with seatbelts and positioning.
If I'm out just with my 11 year-old, then we won't use them.
I admit to being infuriated by those who abuse these spaces. If they're selfish and inconsiderate enough to deprive a parent (or indeed a disabled person) who does need them, I question what else they take advantage of.
If anyone has ever seen the film 'Collier & Co', there's a great 'disabled bay' revenge scene in there. Always wanted to do that.
If I'm out just with my 11 year-old, then we won't use them.
I admit to being infuriated by those who abuse these spaces. If they're selfish and inconsiderate enough to deprive a parent (or indeed a disabled person) who does need them, I question what else they take advantage of.
If anyone has ever seen the film 'Collier & Co', there's a great 'disabled bay' revenge scene in there. Always wanted to do that.
I'm surprised the stereotypical PHer would be seen dead in a supermarket. Doesn't one have a nanny for this sort of chore? I think a new section - 'PH plebs' - might be a useful repository for such threads in future. It could weed out all sorts of rubbish, for example, any cars worth less than £50K, properties under £500K, watches under £3K, home cinema under £10K, anything to do with shopping for essentials and holidays under £10K could all go in there.
I used to, but then I saw the lengths some people will go to avoid an extra 30 second walk, saw the ridiculousness of it and now I just park in the first space I see on the way in.
Well, unless I've got the Baby with me, then we park in the P&C spaces, I wouldn't care if they were at the back - but the extra room is a big help getting a baby seat out.
Well, unless I've got the Baby with me, then we park in the P&C spaces, I wouldn't care if they were at the back - but the extra room is a big help getting a baby seat out.
What about before/after a certain time?
I would say it's reasonable to expect to park in one at 11.30pm without being challenged, as it's highly unlikely most people would bring their offspring out shopping at that time... of course, working with the understanding that it's a 24-hour supermarket.
I would say it's reasonable to expect to park in one at 11.30pm without being challenged, as it's highly unlikely most people would bring their offspring out shopping at that time... of course, working with the understanding that it's a 24-hour supermarket.
tenpenceshort said:
gfunk said:
Upto what age child is acceptable to park in these bays?
They're parent and child spaces, so if I take my mum shopping, we should be alright to use them. I'm 36 btw.Yes, I am only joking.
i fail to see why people take young kids shopping anyway. as a single man it looks to me to be way more hassle than it's worth.
Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.
I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
Got what you deserved fella ...... do you park in disabled bays too ?I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.
I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
You're a cyclist as well aren't you? Parking in mother & child spaces is typical cyclist mentality. They don't pay road tax & think they own the roads. I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
The store has done something to make life a bit easier for parents and kids.
You decided to prevent that from happening.
It's rude.
It's antisocial.
It's mean.
It's not illegal.
It's just ttish behaviour.
Pretty much every parent I've spoken to about this says they don't care about being close to the store.
They just want wide spaces and a safe path to the store.
And, if possible, a nearby trolley corall with trolleys with baby seats.
You decided to prevent that from happening.
It's rude.
It's antisocial.
It's mean.
It's not illegal.
It's just ttish behaviour.
Pretty much every parent I've spoken to about this says they don't care about being close to the store.
They just want wide spaces and a safe path to the store.
And, if possible, a nearby trolley corall with trolleys with baby seats.
Saw this very thing happen last night at Shipley Asda. I parked at the empty farthest end of the car park (and there was still a white van parked next to me when I came back out), and as I was walking across the car park an oldish guy in a Merc parked up and casually parked in the parent and child space. He was by himself.
I almost got my phone out to take a pic but then realised a) I couldn't be @rsed and b) it didn't really bother me *that* much...
It does show that some people think they are 'above' others and can do as they please, just arrogance mixed with ignorance I suppose.
I almost got my phone out to take a pic but then realised a) I couldn't be @rsed and b) it didn't really bother me *that* much...
It does show that some people think they are 'above' others and can do as they please, just arrogance mixed with ignorance I suppose.
surveyor said:
For the record I don't use them at all any more - not even with my daughter as she's old enough to climb out of a car (and in fact will ask for someone top open her door if she's concerned about hitting the car next to us).
When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
It's not just that either. It's better that young (small!) toddlers are not having to cross the lanes of the car park as well. Harassed parent pushing wonky wheeled trolley, plus toddler with hyperactive legs is not a good mix in a busy car park. That's why they are nearest the door.When she was smaller these spaces were invaluable for getting her in and out of her car seat without damaging my car or anybody else's. Having seen the benefit it's obvious as to who would use them.
I can't believe it's such a tricky concept for people to grasp. No, they are not law, they can't be enforced, but it seems a sensible and courteous arrangement to have. As someone mentioned earlier, you don't have to legally offer your seat to a pregnant or old lady, but it says a lot about you if you are able to and don't...
Urban Sports said:
I got called an inconsiderate tw@t yesterday for parking in what seemingly was the last parent and child space at a supermarket by some bloke in a people carrier who admittedly did have kids with him.
I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
Do you not think a person or company has the right to dictate who and where people can park on their property? Would you object if your neighbours started parking on your drive every day?I do have a little boy but he wasn't with me I did however have the child seat in the car which kind of gives me a bit of a ticket to park there.
I do use them if I see one as they're not really a right for people with children, bit harsh being called a tw@t though!
gfunk said:
Upto what age child is acceptable to park in these bays?
I think the pram/buggy symbol is a clue.Annoys me when people with kids over 4 use them, if they can get out of the car themselves, walk to the store then you don't need to use them, you're just being selfish (but have justified to yourself its ok 'cos I have kids'...) having got two kids under the age of two I appreciate the extra space they give. Not bothered about getting close to the store, its just about the 'manoeuvring room'.
And you really wouldn't want my missus trying to do this next to your car.
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