Electronic transfer and cash payment for car - problem?

Electronic transfer and cash payment for car - problem?

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P700DEE

1,111 posts

230 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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R6VED said:
I had the exact same situation happen, but I happened to have my heavily pregnant wife with me just to add insult to injury.

I made multiple phonecalls to the bank and eventually discovered it had triggered their fraud warning - once i had ranted at their Fraud Dept it was in by the time i got off the phone - A whole day wasted in Birmingham :-(

If only someone had said on the first call that the amount (£9750) may have triggered the fraud warning I could have had it sorted in 30 mins.
We all want to be protected from fraud ! Whilst banks are a complete nightmare with their latest security demands you created your own problem. Always call and pre warn them about the amount , beneficary and reason for the transfer wink
Done this several times works a treat. Latest car purchase for the wife they insisted on use of a debit card ! Unfortunately for them their bank screwed up and as I bank First Direct we could track the funds and they failed to grab them. Took a few hours but we left with car which they had to wait 10 days for cash lol. Note the transfer could not be reversed wink

Sheepshanks

32,792 posts

119 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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P700DEE said:
We all want to be protected from fraud ! Whilst banks are a complete nightmare with their latest security demands you created your own problem. Always call and pre warn them about the amount , beneficary and reason for the transfer wink
NatWest are a pain for blocking things - I've called in advance and they've still done it. When I asked why, they said they don't take pay any regard to the advance call, they still follow their normal procedures! They even blocked a payment to an ISA fund I subscribed to.

OTOH my daughter used her HSBC debit card to pay the full price of a new car and it went through based on her tapping n her pin number!

lufbramatt

5,345 posts

134 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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To help avoid a large payment to a new account being flagged up, for the last car I bought I sent the bloke £100 a few days before collecting the car so when I gave him the balance it went through straight away as it was someone I'd paid before.

dinz

403 posts

156 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I went to the local Santander with my buyer, he transferred £15.5k to my Natwest account and it was sat in my account by the time we'd got outside cool

Much better and safer than cash. Last time I sold a car we exchanged £3k cash in the local Ikea car park, I felt a bit dirty after that smile

ecs0set

2,471 posts

284 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Faster Payments _SHOULD_ work and I always try to use it. However for the past few sales I have hit:

  • Doesn't work on a Saturday afternoon, sorry
  • Maximum of £10k, rest will have to go as a separate transaction tomorrow, sorry
  • Buyer's building society account doesn't support Faster Payments, sorry
A few times, I've rang the banks to confirm that it's all going to be ok and resorted to getting the buyer to withdraw large quantities of cash which is then instantly deposited in my bank. This in turn raises issues such as where is the nearest branch, are the lazy feckers open on a Saturday afternoon and will they object to taking £10k in cash out of their safe. Lloyds once attempted to prevent a buyer withdrawing cash but given than we had spent the best part of 3 hours trying to get the cash transferred, our combined death stares convinced her that we were taking the cash either legally or with the aid of shotguns and balaclavas.

Always a pain in the arse and you can guarantee that the branch will tell you a different story to telephone banking operator. Still, it's either that or CHAPS @ £20 plus you still need a branch to be open.

Sheepshanks

32,792 posts

119 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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ecs0set said:
....resorted to getting the buyer to withdraw large quantities of cash which is then instantly deposited in my bank.
Someone we know who works in a bank says this is the ideal thing to do, even if you both use the same bank. The buyer taking the money out and then the seller paying it back in completely isolates the transactions from each other.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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CoolHands said:
R6VED said:
- A whole day wasted in Birmingham :-(
gah!
Yeah, nasty.




gizlaroc

17,251 posts

224 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
Someone we know who works in a bank says this is the ideal thing to do, even if you both use the same bank. The buyer taking the money out and then the seller paying it back in completely isolates the transactions from each other.
Exactly what I suggested, you know that the money is kosher that way, and as far as you and your bank are concerned it is purely cash paid in, no way of ever clawing that back.

Jasandjules

69,918 posts

229 months

Friday 1st August 2014
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I've had 12k or so directly transferred into my account whilst the chap was sat in my lounge. I've also had in excess of that sum handed to me in cash in my lounge.... That said, my preference is to go to the buyer's bank, see them draw out the cash, then proceed to my bank and pay it in..

R6VED

1,370 posts

140 months

Sunday 3rd August 2014
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gizlaroc said:
Yeah, nasty.
it was pretty grotty.