Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
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TurboTerrific9 said:
flemke said:
The trend you describe is a perfect example of why the idea of allowing 16 year-olds to vote is insane. Yes, the lifestylists are out there, but their presence as a social and commercial dynamic should not be confused with something of substance or lasting value. Judging from this video, JWW is to cars as bubblegum is to food.
I fail to see any connection with allowing 16 yo the vote.The movement to grant the vote to 16 year-olds is promulgated mostly by the Left in the hope that immature voters are likely to be attracted to the Left's superficial, simplistic "solutions" to very complex and nuanced issues.
Both are aimed at innocent, impressionable youths who through no fault of their own lack the life experience necessary to make wise, sustainable judgments. In the case of flash automobiles, it doesn't really matter, but of course in the case of politics it does.
TurboTerrific9 said:
flemke said:
TurboTerrific9 said:
flemke said:
The trend you describe is a perfect example of why the idea of allowing 16 year-olds to vote is insane. Yes, the lifestylists are out there, but their presence as a social and commercial dynamic should not be confused with something of substance or lasting value. Judging from this video, JWW is to cars as bubblegum is to food.
I fail to see any connection with allowing 16 yo the vote.The movement to grant the vote to 16 year-olds is promulgated mostly by the Left in the hope that immature voters are likely to be attracted to the Left's superficial, simplistic "solutions" to very complex and nuanced issues.
Both are aimed at innocent, impressionable youths who through no fault of their own lack the life experience necessary to make wise, sustainable judgments. In the case of flash automobiles, it doesn't really matter, but of course in the case of politics it does.
Surely for most who watch these clips it's all about escapism - nothing particularly new in that.
I would say that the immature are more susceptible than the mature to escapism/fantasy, either because their brains are not yet fully formed or because they lack sufficient life experience to differentiate between fact and fiction. JWW is targeting that susceptibility (indeed he appears to suffer from it himself).
The Left are in favour of giving 16 year-olds the vote because they, the Left, presume that they can exploit that same vulnerability and persuade immature voters that the Left's fantasy world would be fair and sustainable.
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do....
t wasn't it. Joe911 said:
Are air-bags just aimed at unrestrained passengers?
I had assumed that the idea of an air-bag is to prevent the occupant - particularly their head - continuing to travel forwards once the vehicle stopped suddenly - reducing the chances of snapped necks and chest compression from being strained against the belts.
So if the air-bag can't fill the gap between the dash and the occupant - there's not much point it being there.
I guess.
Channel 5 once did a test of an airbag, it was moderately interesting in that the driver never touched it as he was restrained entirely by his seat belt.I had assumed that the idea of an air-bag is to prevent the occupant - particularly their head - continuing to travel forwards once the vehicle stopped suddenly - reducing the chances of snapped necks and chest compression from being strained against the belts.
So if the air-bag can't fill the gap between the dash and the occupant - there's not much point it being there.
I guess.
Granted it was an old Rover or something, but anyway. Can't find the video on youtube, presumably because it happened so bloody long ago.
Monty Python said:
it does not appear to have any history so I would suggest that it is worth less than a 'normal' road carSydneyBridge said:
it does not appear to have any history so I would suggest that it is worth less than a 'normal' road car
There's nothing in the ad about the history of the car - you only get that when you send them a LOI. I doubt there are any F1s around that don't have a fully documented history.Monty Python said:
SydneyBridge said:
it does not appear to have any history so I would suggest that it is worth less than a 'normal' road car
There's nothing in the ad about the history of the car - you only get that when you send them a LOI. I doubt there are any F1s around that don't have a fully documented history.Monty Python said:
I doubt the car or advert are genuine.The same person advertising it has over 3000 active ads on that site, and if you google the name it comes up with many ghost stories about them.
TurboTerrific9 said:
Personally I'm willing to believe that younger people understand many of the issues better that you suggest but I accept the argument that age provides the benefit of certain life experiences that help rationalise those decisions. I do wonder whether certain segments of older voters are more problematic due to biases formed much earlier in life
Perhaps, although I base my conclusions on two things:- knowledge from my own teenage years of what my friends (who were quite intelligent people, notwithstanding their friendship with me) and I were sure that we "knew", which often turned out to be superficial, sentimental, transitory and naive, and
- the multitude of information about younger people's opinions that is accessible nowadays to us all. Whether it be the self-righteous idiots at Oxford University who bar free speech when it challenges their own unexamined orthodoxies or the ludicrous cancellation of classes at many US universities in order for students to deal with their "grief" that Hillary Clinton lost the election, there are many indications that today's students are certainly no wiser than were my teenage contemporaries and I.
For me a true classic of the ignorance of the (at least the British) young was when university fees were raised to the present level. Regardless of what one may think about that policy and its exact numbers, one heard many, many students complaining about how stressed they were about the prospect of having that amount of debt hanging over their heads, how could they ever afford to repay it, etc.
What far too many seemed not to appreciate was that it was to be a contingent debt, repayments against which would be required only during later years and only if and when the person could afford to make repayments.
If anyone 18 or over truly could not grasp that very basic difference between an outright debt and a contingent debt, he or she should not have been going to university in the first place.
I applaud the idealism, energy and optimism of the young. But that does not mean that we should entrust the young to make important decisions that may have wide-ranging consequences for years to come. They will have many opportunities to make such decisions after they have grown up.
thegreenhell said:
Monty Python said:
I doubt the car or advert are genuine.The same person advertising it has over 3000 active ads on that site, and if you google the name it comes up with many ghost stories about them.
"- We now have a real Mc Laren F1 GTR (street legal version)
- This is also a very very Rare and fantastic car for a collector.
- All buyers/brokers will need a Strong and Real LOI = letter of intent... and Proof of Funds please...
- Note:The 3 pics in the ad are sample phots used...
- You can have the correct pics after the LOI."
trackdemon said:
Would you spend 7 figures + with someone using grammar like this?
"- We now have a real Mc Laren F1 GTR (street legal version)
- This is also a very very Rare and fantastic car for a collector.
- All buyers/brokers will need a Strong and Real LOI = letter of intent... and Proof of Funds please...
- Note:The 3 pics in the ad are sample phots used...
- You can have the correct pics after the LOI."
Looks like a scam... "oh you want this car... we can find it for you... we need a retainer to secure you as first in line".."- We now have a real Mc Laren F1 GTR (street legal version)
- This is also a very very Rare and fantastic car for a collector.
- All buyers/brokers will need a Strong and Real LOI = letter of intent... and Proof of Funds please...
- Note:The 3 pics in the ad are sample phots used...
- You can have the correct pics after the LOI."
flemke said:
For me a true classic of the ignorance of the (at least the British) young was when university fees were raised to the present level. Regardless of what one may think about that policy and its exact numbers, one heard many, many students complaining about how stressed they were about the prospect of having that amount of debt hanging over their heads, how could they ever afford to repay it, etc.
What far too many seemed not to appreciate was that it was to be a contingent debt, repayments against which would be required only during later years and only if and when the person could afford to make repayments.
If anyone 18 or over truly could not grasp that very basic difference between an outright debt and a contingent debt, he or she should not have been going to university in the first place.
I'm not sure I agree. I'd like to think that those complaining were of the opinion that their university education would result in them earning enough to make them eligible to repay the debt. Yes it's contingent, but that's not the same as assuming one will never have to repay it. Rather, it seems prudent to enter into the situation assuming that it'll have to be repaid, no?What far too many seemed not to appreciate was that it was to be a contingent debt, repayments against which would be required only during later years and only if and when the person could afford to make repayments.
If anyone 18 or over truly could not grasp that very basic difference between an outright debt and a contingent debt, he or she should not have been going to university in the first place.
Back on topic,you're not on the McLaren tour, and I can understand why, but it would have been an opportunity for you to take your F1 on a long trip. Do you have driving days planned for F1 this summer?
Animal said:
flemke said:
For me a true classic of the ignorance of the (at least the British) young was when university fees were raised to the present level. Regardless of what one may think about that policy and its exact numbers, one heard many, many students complaining about how stressed they were about the prospect of having that amount of debt hanging over their heads, how could they ever afford to repay it, etc.
What far too many seemed not to appreciate was that it was to be a contingent debt, repayments against which would be required only during later years and only if and when the person could afford to make repayments.
If anyone 18 or over truly could not grasp that very basic difference between an outright debt and a contingent debt, he or she should not have been going to university in the first place.
I'm not sure I agree. I'd like to think that those complaining were of the opinion that their university education would result in them earning enough to make them eligible to repay the debt. Yes it's contingent, but that's not the same as assuming one will never have to repay it. Rather, it seems prudent to enter into the situation assuming that it'll have to be repaid, no?What far too many seemed not to appreciate was that it was to be a contingent debt, repayments against which would be required only during later years and only if and when the person could afford to make repayments.
If anyone 18 or over truly could not grasp that very basic difference between an outright debt and a contingent debt, he or she should not have been going to university in the first place.
If one were to narrow it down and say that we as a society should subsidise students to pursue careers that will benefit us all, such a health care work, social work, teaching, and some kinds of engineering, I would agree. But for all taxpayers to subsidise children of means so that they can become solicitors, accountants and politicians? Ridiculous.
Animal said:
Back on topic,you're not on the McLaren tour, and I can understand why, but it would have been an opportunity for you to take your F1 on a long trip. Do you have driving days planned for F1 this summer?
I have taken many long trips in my car (personal mileage about 35,000), and I have not yet found the need to travel in a convoy of pretentious rich people. I can read a map myself, I don't want to sleep in a castle, and I'd rather have a good burger and a root beer than filet mignon and a 1982 Chateau-du-Bullsheet. No specific plans for summer drives. At the moment the interior of my car is being retrimmed; not sure how soon it will be finished - they do great work, but McLaren are not known for always being the quickest to get a job done.
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