Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
Discussion
F1GTRUeno said:
I wonder what the matte bronze that Porsche do on their wheels would look like?
They do a less sharp shade but Harris' 911 Touring had this as well which looks good.
It's a bit in-your-face for my taste, although I would consider it. An issue would be the compatibility with my car's white highlights, which I want to keep.They do a less sharp shade but Harris' 911 Touring had this as well which looks good.
Those wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
flemke said:
It's a bit in-your-face for my taste, although I would consider it. An issue would be the compatibility with my car's white highlights, which I want to keep.
Those wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
FlemkeThose wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
In your quest to change your car. Have you ever been tempted to fit the GTR/LM kit? (not the hdf kit as it doesn't include the side skirts
) Or even some parts of the kit but not the rear spoiler for example. Or even some bespoke parts?flemke said:
F1GTRUeno said:
I wonder what the matte bronze that Porsche do on their wheels would look like?
They do a less sharp shade but Harris' 911 Touring had this as well which looks good.
It's a bit in-your-face for my taste, although I would consider it. An issue would be the compatibility with my car's white highlights, which I want to keep.They do a less sharp shade but Harris' 911 Touring had this as well which looks good.
Those wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
I think it's these?
Pale bronze/gold rather than sharp bronze/gold.
The wheels from 03GTR would definitely work on a red F1 agreed.
S1KRR said:
flemke said:
It's a bit in-your-face for my taste, although I would consider it. An issue would be the compatibility with my car's white highlights, which I want to keep.
Those wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
FlemkeThose wheels could look sharp on a red F1.
In your quest to change your car. Have you ever been tempted to fit the GTR/LM kit? (not the hdf kit as it doesn't include the side skirts
) Or even some parts of the kit but not the rear spoiler for example. Or even some bespoke parts?I discussed with the factory possibly adding the GTRs' front PU, but the problem is that it was designed in conjunction with that deep splitter, which creates something to crack on a kerb, brings down the ramp angle (which to start with is not great), and generates downforce that would have to be compensated for by...adding a rear wing.
It might have been possible to shorten substantially the depth of that splitter, but then it might have looked a bit stupid.
I have always been happy with the look of the standard road car and believed that the wings and splitters belonged on only GTRs and LMs.
I had another discussion with the factory about eliminating that curved swage line ahead of the rear wheel arches (the one that designer Peter Stevens said he didn't like), but again decided that the standard car was best.
The only ways I can think of in which my car on the outside differs from standard (apart from wheels/tyres) are the door mirrors, which were done by the factory when the car was being produced, and on the lower edge of the front bumper, where I had them remove those silly rubber strips that, if one is being realistic, have no function and are a waste.
Colour and body/wheel colour combinations are a very personal choice
I've seen many colours used on the original 1st paint of many F1's
Best for me was George Harrison's (ignoring the Budda symbols ghosted in the lacquer on the doors and bonnet in a subtly different shade). Remember the manufacturing director walking around with an aubergine he wanted to colour match. Deep dark metallics seem to really suit the body shape/lines
The worst was a car an African Prince had ordered, combination of gloss primer grey, with some bright bold solid highlights. Looked like some kid trying his best at a car colouring competition. Turned out the African Prince was a kid!
Favourite GTR colour scheme was yellow and blue Parabolica 97 GTR, as it screamed the 90's with it's then bang on trend style or the 95 GTR West Car with gold wheels, just can't beat gold wheels in my mind, especially BBS split rim gold with the polished silver rims.
I've seen many colours used on the original 1st paint of many F1's
Best for me was George Harrison's (ignoring the Budda symbols ghosted in the lacquer on the doors and bonnet in a subtly different shade). Remember the manufacturing director walking around with an aubergine he wanted to colour match. Deep dark metallics seem to really suit the body shape/lines
The worst was a car an African Prince had ordered, combination of gloss primer grey, with some bright bold solid highlights. Looked like some kid trying his best at a car colouring competition. Turned out the African Prince was a kid!
Favourite GTR colour scheme was yellow and blue Parabolica 97 GTR, as it screamed the 90's with it's then bang on trend style or the 95 GTR West Car with gold wheels, just can't beat gold wheels in my mind, especially BBS split rim gold with the polished silver rims.
Edited by marine boy on Sunday 19th May 00:11
flemke said:
F1GTRUeno said:
Yeah it's brighter and sharper than the one I was thinking of.
I think it's these?
Pale bronze/gold rather than sharp bronze/gold.
The wheels from 03GTR would definitely work on a red F1 agreed.
No date set yet. I'll let you know.I think it's these?
Pale bronze/gold rather than sharp bronze/gold.
The wheels from 03GTR would definitely work on a red F1 agreed.
The colours on an F1 are a funny thing, I normally go for (and love) bright colours on sports cars-even yellow and orange.
But the F1 really suits more in the "classy" palette I find-silver, grey, maroon etc. I would normally expect your dark blue to work, it may in real life (I've never seen it) but I still don't think it works with the black wheels.
But the F1 really suits more in the "classy" palette I find-silver, grey, maroon etc. I would normally expect your dark blue to work, it may in real life (I've never seen it) but I still don't think it works with the black wheels.
marine boy said:
Colour and body/wheel colour combinations are a very personal choice
LaurasOtherHalf said:
The colours on an F1 are a funny thing, I normally go for (and love) bright colours on sports cars-even yellow and orange.
But the F1 really suits more in the "classy" palette I find-silver, grey, maroon etc. I would normally expect your dark blue to work, it may in real life (I've never seen it) but I still don't think it works with the black wheels.
But the F1 really suits more in the "classy" palette I find-silver, grey, maroon etc. I would normally expect your dark blue to work, it may in real life (I've never seen it) but I still don't think it works with the black wheels.
CanAm said:
I know it's all down to personal taste, but I also prefer lighter wheels on a darker car.
Sorry Flemke.
As you guys say, taste is personal. Specific to the F1, for me the issue has always been that it was partly a sports car and partly a GT, whereas I wanted it to be as much as possible a sports car (the notion that it could ever be a true GT has always been, in my opinion, completely wrong-headed - it is simply too impractical for that). This was why I have evolved my car as much as I have done.Sorry Flemke.
Silver or metallic grey wheels can look fine on traditional GTs such as SLs, front-engine Fezzas, Astons and the like, and they often seem ideal on luxury saloons such as Bentleys, Rolls Royces and S-Classes. But for me, silver wheels on a sports car look less purposeful, less sporty, than coloured wheels do, and using a "colour" rather than standard silver on the wheels of a sports car is as much about context as it is about aesthetics.
flemke said:
As you guys say, taste is personal. Specific to the F1, for me the issue has always been that it was partly a sports car and partly a GT, whereas I wanted it to be as much as possible a sports car (the notion that it could ever be a true GT has always been, in my opinion, completely wrong-headed - it is simply too impractical for that). This was why I have evolved my car as much as I have done.
Silver or metallic grey wheels can look fine on traditional GTs such as SLs, front-engine Fezzas, Astons and the like, and they often seem ideal on luxury saloons such as Bentleys, Rolls Royces and S-Classes. But for me, silver wheels on a sports car look less purposeful, less sporty, than coloured wheels do, and using a "colour" rather than standard silver on the wheels of a sports car is as much about context as it is about aesthetics.
I think you're over-thinking it, fSilver or metallic grey wheels can look fine on traditional GTs such as SLs, front-engine Fezzas, Astons and the like, and they often seem ideal on luxury saloons such as Bentleys, Rolls Royces and S-Classes. But for me, silver wheels on a sports car look less purposeful, less sporty, than coloured wheels do, and using a "colour" rather than standard silver on the wheels of a sports car is as much about context as it is about aesthetics.
k "context", I just think they look crap 
LaurasOtherHalf said:
flemke said:
As you guys say, taste is personal. Specific to the F1, for me the issue has always been that it was partly a sports car and partly a GT, whereas I wanted it to be as much as possible a sports car (the notion that it could ever be a true GT has always been, in my opinion, completely wrong-headed - it is simply too impractical for that). This was why I have evolved my car as much as I have done.
Silver or metallic grey wheels can look fine on traditional GTs such as SLs, front-engine Fezzas, Astons and the like, and they often seem ideal on luxury saloons such as Bentleys, Rolls Royces and S-Classes. But for me, silver wheels on a sports car look less purposeful, less sporty, than coloured wheels do, and using a "colour" rather than standard silver on the wheels of a sports car is as much about context as it is about aesthetics.
I think you're over-thinking it, fSilver or metallic grey wheels can look fine on traditional GTs such as SLs, front-engine Fezzas, Astons and the like, and they often seem ideal on luxury saloons such as Bentleys, Rolls Royces and S-Classes. But for me, silver wheels on a sports car look less purposeful, less sporty, than coloured wheels do, and using a "colour" rather than standard silver on the wheels of a sports car is as much about context as it is about aesthetics.
k "context", I just think they look crap Whilst we’re waffling in about wheels and their colours, do you agree the (beautiful in my opinion) wheel design would be more noticeable if they were silver Flemke?
And if they did stand out more, do you think it’d impact on the overall aesthetic seeing as you’ve had yours made larger?
I find we’re kind of anesthetised to huge wheels these days but strangely when you see a larger than normal (say a 19” wheel on an air cooled Porsche) on a classic they look comically oversized. This despite some regular modern cars making 20” wheels look a little undersized.
And if they did stand out more, do you think it’d impact on the overall aesthetic seeing as you’ve had yours made larger?
I find we’re kind of anesthetised to huge wheels these days but strangely when you see a larger than normal (say a 19” wheel on an air cooled Porsche) on a classic they look comically oversized. This despite some regular modern cars making 20” wheels look a little undersized.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Whilst we’re waffling in about wheels and their colours, do you agree the (beautiful in my opinion) wheel design would be more noticeable if they were silver Flemke?
And if they did stand out more, do you think it’d impact on the overall aesthetic seeing as you’ve had yours made larger?
I find we’re kind of anesthetised to huge wheels these days but strangely when you see a larger than normal (say a 19” wheel on an air cooled Porsche) on a classic they look comically oversized. This despite some regular modern cars making 20” wheels look a little undersized.
If which wheels were silver? And if they did stand out more, do you think it’d impact on the overall aesthetic seeing as you’ve had yours made larger?
I find we’re kind of anesthetised to huge wheels these days but strangely when you see a larger than normal (say a 19” wheel on an air cooled Porsche) on a classic they look comically oversized. This despite some regular modern cars making 20” wheels look a little undersized.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
flemke said:
If which wheels were silver?
Your custom made ones on the F1- lighter shows more shadow, and therefore more contours, than darker;
- gloss shows more reflection, and therefore more contours, than matte;
- if the brake rotor itself is light (iron rather than carbon-carbon), darker shows silhouette better than lighter.
Mine are black, dead matte, against carbon-carbon rotors, and therefore almost invisible.
flemke said:
In general, yes, although there are several variables.
- lighter shows more shadow, and therefore more contours, than darker;
- gloss shows more reflection, and therefore more contours, than matte;
- if the brake rotor itself is light (iron rather than carbon-carbon), darker shows silhouette better than lighter.
Mine are black, dead matte, against carbon-carbon rotors, and therefore almost invisible.
Does this mean you have got the carbon brakes working in the F1 now?- lighter shows more shadow, and therefore more contours, than darker;
- gloss shows more reflection, and therefore more contours, than matte;
- if the brake rotor itself is light (iron rather than carbon-carbon), darker shows silhouette better than lighter.
Mine are black, dead matte, against carbon-carbon rotors, and therefore almost invisible.
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