Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)

Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)

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epom

11,520 posts

161 months

Tuesday 31st December 2019
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Ligne said:
epom said:
Speaking of all things Rocket, I saw on social media (can’t remember which one) that one of the high end dealers have bought a red Rocket in Japan. And no can’t remember which dealer either frown very useful post, I know smile
It was Duncan Hamilton, who I’d guess have dealt with the majority of recent Rocket sales. Did well to find that one in Japan.
Ah spot on, I only stumbled across it by accident.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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epom said:
Speaking of all things Rocket, I saw on social media (can’t remember which one) that one of the high end dealers have bought a red Rocket in Japan. And no can’t remember which dealer either frown very useful post, I know smile
Almost all if not all the Rockets originally went to Japan or stayed in the UK. Chris has a bit of a cult following in Japan, into which he has sold a number of Vemacs.
Jay Leno's Rocket was made in the US during the period when Chris had sold LCC to a third party (he has since bought it back). As such, it was not made by the factory. I'm not saying that it is not a real LCC Rocket, but it has a slightly different provenance from the rest of the cars.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Ligne said:
Szulc said:
I was so happy to see the carfection video of the rocket, especially as it was one instantly recognizable from PH.

I love how Henry mentioned some of the exact stuff as Chris Harris did in his review.. In the workshop, you can see a rocket with similar colors to Flemke's rocket.

Still waiting patiently on that book. Anyone know of any collectable items besides the pins? I hope we can get the leather keychain project fired up again.
I’m also eagerly awaiting the Rocket book but I’m not sure what is happening with it. The last I heard was from somebody at Duncan Hamilton who is apparently helping with the process. The Rocket owner (who is/was a PH poster) that started the book may be on here and able to update though. Or maybe Flemke and Stefan have some info smile
I have not heard anything from a author for a while - since February 22, 2016, to be exact.

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Flemke, I wonder if you could help...

I'm fairly severely colourblind, however my better half bought me corrective glasses (Pilestone, for severe protanopia) for Christmas, and now I'm experiencing a world of new colours and vibrancy!

Any suggestions for some things to go look at, that really are pure expressions of colour?

For reference, so far there are colours I can 'see' that are far richer (such as deep rich blues, oranges, pure reds. Greens are strangely deeper and much more intense) as well as colours that are entirely new to me, and I still need help with understanding what I can now see through the lenses (purples, mauves, beige, brown, turquoise/teal, etc.)

We've already been and looked at corals/marine fish, certain car hues I've spent ten minutes stood in a cold car park appreciating, and lots of Planet Earth type programmes have been watched in 4k UHD!

Hope you had a great Christmas, and wish you all the best for the new year.

Edited by Sway on Wednesday 1st January 18:19

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,080 posts

212 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Sway said:
Flemke, I wonder if you could help...

I'm fairly severely colourblind, however my better half bought me corrective glasses (Pilestone, for severe protanopia) for Christmas, and now I'm experiencing a world of new colours and vibrancy!

Any suggestions for some things to go look at, that really are pure expressions of colour?

For reference, so far there are colours I can 'see' that are far richer (such as deep rich blues, oranges, pure reds. Greens are strangely deeper and much more intense) as well as colours that are entirely new to me, and I still need help with understanding what I can now see through the lenses (purples, mauves, beige, brown, turquoise/teal, etc.)

We've already been and looked at corals/marine fish, certain car hues I've spent ten minutes stood in a cold car park appreciating, and lots of Planet Earth type programmes have been watched in 4k UHD!

Hope you had a great Christmas, and wish you all the best for the new year.

Edited by Sway on Wednesday 1st January 18:19
That seems like a very unusual request to aim specifically at one person.... But either way, that's fantastic news - enjoy life in HD thumbup

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That seems like a very unusual request to aim specifically at one person.... But either way, that's fantastic news - enjoy life in HD thumbup
Cheers - it's not that unusual, Flemke is fairly well known as being exceptionally particular and knowledgeable regarding colour.

thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
That seems like a very unusual request to aim specifically at one person.... But either way, that's fantastic news - enjoy life in HD thumbup
I guess you missed the saga of Flemke trying to decide on a new colour for his F1.

flemke

22,865 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st January 2020
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Sway said:
Flemke, I wonder if you could help...

I'm fairly severely colourblind, however my better half bought me corrective glasses (Pilestone, for severe protanopia) for Christmas, and now I'm experiencing a world of new colours and vibrancy!

Any suggestions for some things to go look at, that really are pure expressions of colour?

For reference, so far there are colours I can 'see' that are far richer (such as deep rich blues, oranges, pure reds. Greens are strangely deeper and much more intense) as well as colours that are entirely new to me, and I still need help with understanding what I can now see through the lenses (purples, mauves, beige, brown, turquoise/teal, etc.)

We've already been and looked at corals/marine fish, certain car hues I've spent ten minutes stood in a cold car park appreciating, and lots of Planet Earth type programmes have been watched in 4k UHD!

Hope you had a great Christmas, and wish you all the best for the new year.
Hmmm....
You'll have to wait for the leaves to turn next autumn for one of the highlights.
In the meantime, the first thing that occurs to me is art. Picture books are usually not good enough, likewise the internet. You really need to see art in the flesh to feel the colour.
If we're talking about intensity, variety, inventiveness and dynamism of colour, some of the best colourists include de Kooning, Milton Avery, Van Gogh, Matisse, Monet, Cezanne, Kenneth Noland, John McCracken, maybe Rothko, Morris Louis and Ad Reinhardt (the blue paintings).
There is currently a beautiful retrospective at London's Hayward Gallery of Bridget Riley's work. She is not primarily a colourist, but she is one of the best painters of the last 50 years and there is enough colour there to hold one's interest.
You might also like Seurat, although there aren't many of his paintings about.
Dan Flavin's fluorescent sculptures are another possibility.

Other stunning examples of colour can be found in neon signs, bird plumage, and some flowers (African daisies, dendrobiums). Blood comes in absolutely beautiful colours.
If you like automotive paints, there are some nice ones around, but for pure spectacle I would suggest the House of Kolor candies:
https://www.houseofkolor.com/homepage/

For pure colour experiences, paint charts can be good, but they have to be made in the actual paint rather than a printed ink facsimile. In addition to the House of Kolor charts, you would probably enjoy charts for such as Windsor & Newton gouache and, separately, their oil paints or Old Holland oil paints.

In fabric, Missoni woven textiles are worth checking out. Silk takes dye beautifully - have a look at Japanese kimonos, and even something as crass and uninspiring as Hermes scarves and ties can have bright, clean colours.

Another factor to consider is the quality of the natural light under which something is being viewed. There is a reason why so many great colourists came from France and so few from the UK!




Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Thursday 2nd January 2020
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That's awesome, thanks.

Gives me two key things - new things to appreciate/experience, but also some clean bases for me to relearn what I'm seeing.

Should be off to NZ shortly with work, so I'll aim to layover in BKK and go look at some silks!

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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This may well have been asked before but have you ever considered lending your car to Harry Metcalfe for the day...?

A Harry's Garage on the McLaren F1 would be pinnacle.

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

200 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Patrick Bateman said:
This may well have been asked before but have you ever considered lending your car to Harry Metcalfe for the day...?

A Harry's Garage on the McLaren F1 would be pinnacle.
“Oh hey, you don’t know me, but here’s a £25m asset I’d like to to take out for the day.”

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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AlmostUseful said:
“Oh hey, you don’t know me, but here’s a £25m asset I’d like to to take out for the day.”
If I remember correctly, back in the "good old days" of EVO, Flemke's F1 was 'reviewed' (or perhaps, "experienced" is a better term).

Got a feeling Dickie Meaden was the driver.

Crikey, it feels like a long time ago - really racking my memory!

S1KRR

12,548 posts

212 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Sway said:
If I remember correctly, back in the "good old days" of EVO, Flemke's F1 was 'reviewed' (or perhaps, "experienced" is a better term).

Got a feeling Dickie Meaden was the driver.

Crikey, it feels like a long time ago - really racking my memory!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7cKvZMLQnQ

Without the famous quote sadly.

"..but the engines quite good" biggrin

Edited by S1KRR on Tuesday 7th January 21:52

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Oh my, thanks - hadn't seen that before.

In fact, don't recall seeing anything that gave an impression of the noise in the cabin giving it some beans - I think I've just had an accident...

Nine years - blimey. I had a full head of hair back then - and none on my back!

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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AlmostUseful said:
“Oh hey, you don’t know me, but here’s a £25m asset I’d like to to take out for the day.”
Can only ask!

Chris Harris did get a shot of an F40 and an F50 to absolutely thrash round a track from one such owner so it wouldn't be unheard of.

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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Sway said:
Oh my, thanks - hadn't seen that before.

In fact, don't recall seeing anything that gave an impression of the noise in the cabin giving it some beans - I think I've just had an accident...

Nine years - blimey. I had a full head of hair back then - and none on my back!
https://youtu.be/haVCTy8mfsQ?t=400

You're welcome.

Sway

26,276 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th January 2020
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And...

I'm spent.

Cheers! That deserves a beer if you're ever near Goodwood!

Veeayt

3,139 posts

205 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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S1KRR said:
Sway said:
If I remember correctly, back in the "good old days" of EVO, Flemke's F1 was 'reviewed' (or perhaps, "experienced" is a better term).

Got a feeling Dickie Meaden was the driver.

Crikey, it feels like a long time ago - really racking my memory!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7cKvZMLQnQ

Without the famous quote sadly.

"..but the engines quite good" biggrin

Edited by S1KRR on Tuesday 7th January 21:52
That article was the reason I joined pistonheads

lauda

3,476 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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I’ve just read John Barker’s piece in Octane this month on the evolution of Ferrari’s supercars from the 288 GTO to the LaFerrari (and a very good piece it is too, accompanied by stunning photography).

When discussing the F50, he notes that it’s ‘way better’ to drive than it’s contemporary, the McLaren F1.

Flemke, I know you don’t think the standard F1 is perfect but have you ever driven an F50? If so, would you consider it a better drive (ignoring brand, build quality and other factors that you’d consider as an owner but would be less important for someone who just wanted to drive the better car) than the F1, in both original spec and taking account of the modifications you’ve made to yours?

Caddyshack

10,812 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th January 2020
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A few people who drove Flemke's F1 and then drove the CGT said the CGT was the better drive (My friend Tim R drove them around the roads near the ring and the F1 scared him whereas he loved the CGT - I think he had a fair bit of seat time in both)

EVO had the CGT and F1 at Bedford and Gordon Murray hitched a ride home in the F1

I think this is all public knowledge as has been in the Mag so not breaking any confidences (but will delete if Flemke wants me to)