Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)

[Petrus1983]

flemke said:

Petrus1983 said:

I don’t know precisely - but this was recently -

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/coys-accus...

I once went into Coys to enquire about a Cobra that they had in the window.
A sharply-dressed salesman gave me the pitch: all original condition, perfect running order, et al.
After we chatted about it for a few minutes, he said, "There was a feature article in XYZ auto magazine about this very car when it was new. Would you like to see it?"
"Sure", I said.
We went back into the office where he retrieved the magazine, then flipped it open to the article in question.
I looked at the photos, looked again, and then enquired, "This is the same car that I just saw in the showroom?"
"Yes, indeed!", came the reply.
"And the car in the showroom is all original?"
"It is indeed!"
"Okay", I continued. "Can you please explain to me why the car in the magazine photos is right-hand drive and the car in your showroom is left-hand drive?"

Brilliant - and perfectly summed up.

[F1GTRUeno]

S1KRR said:

Is it me or does the rear spoiler look a bit strange? Too tall and a bit skinny?


(I know the road car HDF has the snorkels on the inside of the supports)

Compared to



Or is because the later (96?) developed GTRs had a bigger rear spoiler (as seen on Harrods and Fina cars)

I thought it was my eyes tricking me into looking for changes due to the original wheels but I picked up on that in the video too. It looks off.

Also, the photo of the LM rear is pure pornography.

[EvoOlli]

Regarding the video of the unloading of the Silver F1:
Is it normal, that you unload such a car running under it's own steam, with someone sitting in the driver seat with a dirty high visibility vest und driving on the clutch most of the time ?
I never would start the engine on my own car for such a short time and drive the car so slow using the clutch.

I was in the motorsport for a long time with a 911 GT3RSR and several 911 Cup Cars. We never used the engine while unloading or something else, we always pushed the car to it's final place.

[HughG]

EvoOlli said:

Regarding the video of the unloading of the Silver F1:
Is it normal, that you unload such a car running under it's own steam, with someone sitting in the driver seat with a dirty high visibility vest und driving on the clutch most of the time ?
I never would start the engine on my own car for such a short time and drive the car so slow using the clutch.

I was in the motorsport for a long time with a 911 GT3RSR and several 911 Cup Cars. We never used the engine while unloading or something else, we always pushed the car to it's final place.

I thought that too!

[andyps]

F1natic said:

I have not seen such bad deterioration on any other dashpads, is this an issue due to the SA heat?

Might just be the way you can make a suede look, I took this from the other side so can't see the section which specifically looks poor but I certainly didn't notice anything when looking at it

[flemke]

EvoOlli said:

Regarding the video of the unloading of the Silver F1:
Is it normal, that you unload such a car running under it's own steam, with someone sitting in the driver seat with a dirty high visibility vest und driving on the clutch most of the time ?
I never would start the engine on my own car for such a short time and drive the car so slow using the clutch.

I was in the motorsport for a long time with a 911 GT3RSR and several 911 Cup Cars. We never used the engine while unloading or something else, we always pushed the car to it's final place.

I am not sure to which video you are referring. When my car is being transported I always specify that it should be pushed/driven onto a horizontal bed that then is hoisted onto the frame of the lorry. If that is not possible, they would use the towing eye. Slipping the clutch is a total no-no.

[S1KRR]

flemke said:

I am not sure to which video you are referring. When my car is being transported I always specify that it should be pushed/driven onto a horizontal bed that then is hoisted onto the frame of the lorry. If that is not possible, they would use the towing eye. Slipping the clutch is a total no-no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nADQmgXmwsI

This one was linked a few days ago.


TBH I did wonder about the general care of the vehicle by the movers. Fairly sure I'd have made some pointed comments had I seen them allowing passers by to sit in the car. When Erik did his walk around film of F1 MAC a while ago, he wasn't allowed to sit in the car. And TBH outside of other owners he's probably someone that Id have no problems with sitting in one!

Regarding Coys, even with their seemingly dubious practices, if this car came up for sale, there's no doubting it's provenance. So I doubt this would stop anyone buying it from them (unless they go mental with the price hoping for a bumper payday)

Edited by S1KRR on Thursday 27th February 20:53

[Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area]

Re Coys: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

There have been other threads but they’ve been removed as is the PH way

[EvoOlli]

flemke said:

I am not sure to which video you are referring. When my car is being transported I always specify that it should be pushed/driven onto a horizontal bed that then is hoisted onto the frame of the lorry. If that is not possible, they would use the towing eye. Slipping the clutch is a total no-no.

I am sure that you are very careful with your car and choose the correct people / company for transportation. I was referring to the video above, where you could see some people unloading the silver F1 for an auction.
Think of it: Someone is obsessed with the careful handling of his car, year for year, and then some moovers do the exact opposite and destroy this love in minutes.

[Swampy1982]

Have you been watching the F1 practice Flemke? What are your thoughts so far?

[flemke]

Swampy1982 said:

Have you been watching the F1 practice Flemke? What are your thoughts so far?

I have been following it to some extent. As usual, I have no particular insights.
It's a shame that Racing Pointless are allowed to run their copy of last year's Merc, although their greater offence is running those horrible pink cars.

I am pleased that a cost cap will be introduced next year, although my guess is that it will take 4-5 years before it's a fair fight. Undoubtedly the three rich teams will be spending a huge amount this year on next year's car, and they will continue to reap the benefits of that for several years to follow.
Aggravating the situation is that we now have the 'B teams'. I expect that each of the rich teams will allocate specific engineering and development tasks to its B teams, thereby in effect enlarging the A team's budget.

I have been saying for ages that the biggest problem with F1 is that the regulator and the commercial rights holder are different parties, with the result that the sport and the fans suffer. The better model is NASCAR, where the same party owns the commercial rights and sets the rules. In that structure, when a team is too far ahead (by its own ingenuity, or equally because it simply has the biggest budget or in true semantic-BS fashion it has found a lawyer's unintended loophole in the regulations). In that model, when something is distorting the competition too much, the NASCAR regulator just says, 'You ain't doin' that no more', and that is the end of it.

DAS is a brilliant idea, but it doesn't really pass the smell test, does it? It may not strictly be against the rules, but it seems to be against the spirit of several of them!

I see that Honda are questioning whether F1 will be relevant enough to its consumer products to justify continued investment in the almost completely road-irrelevant F1 PUs. Similarly, it is uncertain whether Renault, with its former CEO hiding in Lebanon, will choose to spend further vast amounts on its F1 project. It's possible that, sooner rather than later, there will be only two PU suppliers in F1. What then?


McLaren are looking pretty good, but one expects that a big factor in this year's competition will be how soon each of the seven 'normal' teams begins to divert most of it efforts from this season's car to the new formula.

[S1KRR]

Flemke, this may have been asked before. so apologies if the case



Have any other F1 owners taken it upon themselves to modify their car? I mean beyond the factory approved changes like headlights, AC, HDK. Or the GTR road conversions (Is it only Lanzante that offer this service?)

Have any other owners approached you for advice?

[flemke]

S1KRR said:

Flemke, this may have been asked before. so apologies if the case



Have any other F1 owners taken it upon themselves to modify their car? I mean beyond the factory approved changes like headlights, AC, HDK. Or the GTR road conversions (Is it only Lanzante that offer this service?)

Have any other owners approached you for advice?

As far as other owners modifying their cars, there was one guy in Japan who changed to Showa dampers and another who changed brake calipers. I can't think of anyone else (apart from the American chap who put some strange wheels on his car - they didn't last long!).

I have been indirectly approached (by intermediaries) a few times. One I offered to help, but I didn't hear back. The others I declined.

For me there are two issues. The first is that I have spent a heck of a lot of time and money doing what I have done, whilst no one else has bothered (apart from the minor examples above). I am not inclined to give away to some rich guy what I have done on my own.
The other issue is liability. If I were to give/sell the technical spec or any other advice or product developed for my car to a third party, and subsequently that person came unstuck, would I get blamed, even if, as is often the case these days, what I had done were totally unrelated to why that person got into trouble? It's just not worth getting involved.

I did make up two copies of an improved part, one for my car and one that I gave to Gordon, but I wasn't too worried about whether he was competent to judge for himself the suitability of it!

[Sway]

Would that be a part to replace a "bracket on a bracket"?

[flemke]

Sway said:

Would that be a part to replace a "bracket on a bracket"?

Indeed it would be. I believe I posted here a photo of that part back when I had it made.

[flemke]

One bracket instead of two:

[Sway]

I thought I remembered the discussion after an evo article with Gordon pointing out the one component he didn't like, and the story behind it.

[flemke]

Sway said:

I thought I remembered the discussion after an evo article with Gordon pointing out the one component he didn't like, and the story behind it.

I had not told him that I was going to have them made up. After they were finished, I said that I was coming down to give him something; he had no idea what it was. When I handed it to him, it took him only a few seconds before he said, "The bracket on a bracket!"

[Sway]

Nicely done!

[F1natic]

Nice one piece design, not tempted to make it in carbon fibre?

Edited by F1natic on Tuesday 3rd March 06:16