Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
Discussion
Swampy1982 said:
flemke said:
ArgonautX said:
Did I hear correctly, 7K pounds for an old style Mclaren badge on the P1?
Who said that?Also said 3.5k for the Brucie bonus badge...
Including VAT, I was charged £516.00.
Antony Moxey said:
How easy or difficult a decision was it to sell your McLaren fleet, and is there any regret over selling them or buying them in the first place? I guess whatever your feelings are then as long as you’ve still got the F1 then it’s not all bad?
The ones I have sold were sold because they would not be road-legal in the country where I expected to be living. Some I liked more than others, but they are all good or really good cars. As you suggest, however, none comes close to the F1.flemke said:
Swampy1982 said:
flemke said:
ArgonautX said:
Did I hear correctly, 7K pounds for an old style Mclaren badge on the P1?
Who said that?Also said 3.5k for the Brucie bonus badge...
Including VAT, I was charged £516.00.
n3il123 said:
Without wanting to start another thread but, Flemke is this "your" P1 P1 Ad
The video does not exactly start well:0:12: 'It has never left the UK' - except for the trip to Germany in November 2014
0:18: 'It's the highest spec P1 for sale, anywhere in the world today' - except for the P1 Carbon Series for sale at VIP Motors, Dubai
Ah well.
cc8s said:
It might be interesting for you to watch the video and highlight any 'loose' factual statements and their corrections 
Also, am I correct in saying that the 'P1 MSO' badge on the side skirt is a sticker?
I am not looking to rain on someone else's parade, especially as I am unsure whether it is still owned by the person I know (a good guy, and not to be confused with the person who bought the car from me) or it is owned by Tom Hartley. I would rather not do a full analysis of what the fellow in the video had to say. I listened to the first one minute and that was more than enough.Also, am I correct in saying that the 'P1 MSO' badge on the side skirt is a sticker?
There is no such thing as a 'P1 MSO'. Almost every P1 that was built had some level of personalisation done to it at MSO. At the same time, McLaren do not refer to a car as an 'MSO' just because it's been worked on at MSO.
I presume that the 'MSO' label is a sticker, not paint. Under my ownership the car did not have that a label on the sill - I dislike labels and stickers and would never have wanted any such superficialities on the car. When I buy something that I want to keep, if it's got a label I will often try to remove it - I have used up quantities of Goo Gone!
DanL said:
cc8s said:
The video does not exactly start well:
0:12: 'It has never left the UK' - except for the trip to Germany in November 2014
I’d imagine by that he means it’s never been exported...0:12: 'It has never left the UK' - except for the trip to Germany in November 2014
ArgonautX said:
BTW, Flemke, is your ex P1 really the only one with the gold shielding for the exhaust? Do you know how much gold they used? As far as P1s go, it's a very nice spec, though I would remove the stripe.
McLaren absolutely did sell other P1s with the gold heat shielding - it was a standard factory option costing £15,484 (incl VAT). The gold would probably cover about 1.5 sq ft. Based on the cost of the raw material required for the F1's heat shielding, I would guess that the cost of the material for the P1 was £1000-1500 - that sort of thing.I was not crazy about the stripe, but that was because I wanted it to taper so that it was slightly narrower towards the front, and on this car it is the same width and actually looks fatter towards the front.
The dark blue is a fabulous colour, but it needs a bit of something lighter to create a contrast.
Antony Moxey said:
That gold heat shielding, is that what makes it an MSO P1 rather than a bog standard one... 
No.The gold heat shielding was always a standard factory option and would have been installed when a car was being originally assembled, long before it ever got to MSO. I think something like 20% of all cars were ordered with the heat shielding.
If after the car had been built the owner decided to have the shielding retrofitted, then the car would have gone to MSO for that job.
AlmostUseful said:
Not only a great salesman with a mind for made up figures, he also makes up his own words. It’s £150k cheaper than any comparisable car*
Depends on what one means by 'highest spec'. If one means best spec, that may be true (in my opinion, at least - which there aren’t any of course, because it’s the highest spec of all of them for sale.
). If one means most expensive spec, it was nowhere near that.flemke said:
Depends on what one means by 'highest spec'. If one means best spec, that may be true (in my opinion, at least ). If one means most expensive spec, it was nowhere near that.
Without blowing too much smoke up your proverbial, it’s the best spec one I’ve seen for sale and it looks incredibly well prepared for sale at TH’s. ). If one means most expensive spec, it was nowhere near that.He referred to it as the highest spec for sale in the vid (assume your didn’t get that far, can’t blame you!) and then said it was cheaper than all “comparisable” cars which is odd, as I can’t see how they can be comparisable if this is the highest spec!
Genuinely though, it’s a gorgeous car! And although he spouts a lot of crap I’d still buy it from him.
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