Flemke - Is this your McLaren? (Vol 5)
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While watching a video on a japanese Ferrari tuner, who also was at the time the only japanese McLaren F1 dealer/service center... something interesting came up.
The gentleman who runs this operation at the time designed and built his own version of the S70/2 engine that, in road trim, revved to 9500 rpm. It features a different architecture to the S70/2, with a bore of 90 mm and stroke of 78 mm. Since the S70/2 has a bore spacing of 91 mm(bore 86 mm x stroke 87 mm), it is obviously a different block altogether. It was designed to slot into a Mclaren F1(as well as a F355 based car). The details of the engine can be seen at around 12 minutes into this video. Apparently it was tested in the W210 E class mule. A single prototype survives and can be seen in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdbRfXB3V8
The gentleman who runs this operation at the time designed and built his own version of the S70/2 engine that, in road trim, revved to 9500 rpm. It features a different architecture to the S70/2, with a bore of 90 mm and stroke of 78 mm. Since the S70/2 has a bore spacing of 91 mm(bore 86 mm x stroke 87 mm), it is obviously a different block altogether. It was designed to slot into a Mclaren F1(as well as a F355 based car). The details of the engine can be seen at around 12 minutes into this video. Apparently it was tested in the W210 E class mule. A single prototype survives and can be seen in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdbRfXB3V8
Edited by ArgonautX on Wednesday 21st June 15:49
Edited by ArgonautX on Wednesday 21st June 15:58
ArgonautX said:
While watching a video on a japanese Ferrari tuner, who also was at the time the only japanese McLaren F1 dealer/service center... something interesting came up.
The gentleman who runs this operation at the time designed and built his own version of the S70/2 engine that, in road trim, revved to 9500 rpm. It features a different architecture to the S70/2, with a bore of 90 mm and stroke of 78 mm. Since the S70/2 has a bore spacing of 91 mm(bore 86 mm x stroke 87 mm), it is obviously a different block altogether. It was designed to slot into a Mclaren F1(as well as a F355 based car). The details of the engine can be seen at around 12 minutes into this video. Apparently it was tested in the W210 E class mule. A single prototype survives and can be seen in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdbRfXB3V8
This fellow has admirable ambition and skill.The gentleman who runs this operation at the time designed and built his own version of the S70/2 engine that, in road trim, revved to 9500 rpm. It features a different architecture to the S70/2, with a bore of 90 mm and stroke of 78 mm. Since the S70/2 has a bore spacing of 91 mm(bore 86 mm x stroke 87 mm), it is obviously a different block altogether. It was designed to slot into a Mclaren F1(as well as a F355 based car). The details of the engine can be seen at around 12 minutes into this video. Apparently it was tested in the W210 E class mule. A single prototype survives and can be seen in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgdbRfXB3V8
And for his next project, he created a new version of something called 'the wheel'.
flemke said:
This fellow has admirable ambition and skill.
And for his next project, he created a new version of something called 'the wheel'.
He was unhappy that S70/2 didn't rev higher, so he created his own version. He cast his own block, but I'm guessing he probably used S70/2 pistons and combustion chamber design. The race version was capable of 10000 rpm and 800+ hp.And for his next project, he created a new version of something called 'the wheel'.
I would argue a simpler alternative, just shorten the stroke on the S70/2, a 86x81 mm bore and stroke that Alpina ran on their version of the M73 would yield a displacement of 5.7 liters and the ability to rev higher.
This is probably as good a place as any to mention that the Brunei F1s have been moving a lot recently.
Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
cc8s said:
This is probably as good a place as any to mention that the Brunei F1s have been moving a lot recently.
Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
There was also a Rocket there too Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
cc8s said:
This is probably as good a place as any to mention that the Brunei F1s have been moving a lot recently.
Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
Good news, can you imagine the bill ? not that it matters. Have they been bought or due to go on the market do you know ? I do know the only F1 here in Ireland is one of their old ones. Their F1 GT was sent to MSO for recommissioning recently and the two F1 LMs have apparently landed in England to receive similar treatment. There are others that will know a lot more and can maybe share.
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
cc8s said:
On another note, two F1 roadcars turned up to FoS (not part of displays). 028 in the public carpark, and 046 in the supercar carpark. Flemke, have you ever taken a car to FoS? Or not your scene?
I also saw a silver road car in a showroom/ garage window on the way FOS not being local I don’t know where it was but was quite close to goodwood. I nearly crashed my car when I saw it! 
keo said:
I also saw a silver road car in a showroom/ garage window on the way FOS not being local I don’t know where it was but was quite close to goodwood. I nearly crashed my car when I saw it!
that'll be chassis 012 at Lanzante's. If you had stopped and taken a closer look you'd notice the TAG graphics on it 
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PAUL.S. said:
They are hardly the rotting corpses dumped in the humid Brunei jungle that many wanted people to actually believe!
I saw another Brunei F1 the day it arrived in the UK, chassis 005, the black one now based in Ireland.It wasn't the best condition I've ever seen, but far far from the worst. It needed a good Detailing, some new bits, new headlining, [still needs new Glass but there's a shortage], a decent service through MSO, the wheels needed repainting but in the end were returned to factory spec silver and some replacement of lifed items., other than that it was OK.
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