MPG and your reasons!!!
Discussion
On a long motorway trip I usually try to maximise the MPG as the journey is inherently dull at whatever speed I conclude I may as well do it efficiently and conserve the petrol£ for when I get onto some twisties. Aside from this never give MPG a second thought, I certainly wouldn't consider it an important factor when choosing a car.
My main car does 25mpg average mostly town driving will hit 35 on a run if doing 60-65mph but that's so fking boring tbh. The car a mk1 mx5 1.8.
Does it bother me nope it cost peanuts to maintain a full service kit cost £30 and the only things ive replaced are things ive wanted to replace ie wheels. Brake pads all round too better quality, braided brake hoses and dot 5.1 brake fluid mainly due to occasional track use.
I do 10 miles per day back and for to work so fill up twice a month which cost 100 quid or so unless im out on a run with other mx5 or going to a show life is to short to worry about fuel economy life about enjoying yourself and the mx5 certainly does that specially when you have wales's greatest driving road 20mins from your house.
Does it bother me nope it cost peanuts to maintain a full service kit cost £30 and the only things ive replaced are things ive wanted to replace ie wheels. Brake pads all round too better quality, braided brake hoses and dot 5.1 brake fluid mainly due to occasional track use.
I do 10 miles per day back and for to work so fill up twice a month which cost 100 quid or so unless im out on a run with other mx5 or going to a show life is to short to worry about fuel economy life about enjoying yourself and the mx5 certainly does that specially when you have wales's greatest driving road 20mins from your house.
I went down from 38-42mpg to c18mpg annual miles c15k
Bhp per tonne from c170 up to c250
Refilling does grate a lot especially as its super only but moreso the amount of time I wants filling up and waiting to be able to full up.
It also grates that using an RS6 to do business miles I'm actually paying myself to do those miles as in the pence per mile is too low even with the tax difference to 45ppm for an RS6.
What's the difference? Well for 80% plus of the time there is absolutely nothing in it - it the starting it up the WOT which would have been hey this is pretty quick to yes this is quick oh no fk me this is way too quick back off, tunnels too are fun which they were not.
One thing is say is is certainly own another 330d no question they are superb cars fast modern great handling M sport and efficient plus little chance of bork
Bhp per tonne from c170 up to c250
Refilling does grate a lot especially as its super only but moreso the amount of time I wants filling up and waiting to be able to full up.
It also grates that using an RS6 to do business miles I'm actually paying myself to do those miles as in the pence per mile is too low even with the tax difference to 45ppm for an RS6.
What's the difference? Well for 80% plus of the time there is absolutely nothing in it - it the starting it up the WOT which would have been hey this is pretty quick to yes this is quick oh no fk me this is way too quick back off, tunnels too are fun which they were not.
One thing is say is is certainly own another 330d no question they are superb cars fast modern great handling M sport and efficient plus little chance of bork
It does not bother me at the moment. Only covering about 3k miles per annum - sometimes less - since I don't need to commute to work.
I currently run a RR Vogue V8 petrol and haven't even bothered to work out what it does to the gallon, nor do I check what my local petrol stations have their fuel priced at. It's just not something that registers with me.
I currently run a RR Vogue V8 petrol and haven't even bothered to work out what it does to the gallon, nor do I check what my local petrol stations have their fuel priced at. It's just not something that registers with me.
MPG doesn't bother me too much - working from home, when I do travel for work I get 28p/mile (ish) - my cars cost me about 26 or 27p/mile, so that's covered, and a car allowance covers other running costs. When travelling on my own time, I'd still be running the same sort of car.
20mpg would probably be a cut off when it started to smart.
20mpg would probably be a cut off when it started to smart.
As I don't have a fuel card (not worth the extra tax in my case) I claim mileage for my business travel. If I get over 43-44 mpg (depending on the price of fuel) I'm ok, so I can drive my 320d without having to be particularly careful as it tends to average high 40s even when I don't hang about.
My personal car (Z3 3.0) was bought knowing full well I'd be unlikely to get more than 25mpg and for the low annual mileage I do even 10mpg would't matter, so I suppose I'm not bothered about mpg. The only issue might be that if was really that low then there might be something wrong with the car, so I'd be checking for fault codes, etc. Not that it's been on the road for a long time, but I feel the same about my RS2000 (I'd like to upgrade the engine to twin carbs, so the reduced mpg won't worry me at all; the extra power will be good to have).
My personal car (Z3 3.0) was bought knowing full well I'd be unlikely to get more than 25mpg and for the low annual mileage I do even 10mpg would't matter, so I suppose I'm not bothered about mpg. The only issue might be that if was really that low then there might be something wrong with the car, so I'd be checking for fault codes, etc. Not that it's been on the road for a long time, but I feel the same about my RS2000 (I'd like to upgrade the engine to twin carbs, so the reduced mpg won't worry me at all; the extra power will be good to have).
daemon said:
Mound Dawg said:
Because I drive 90 miles a day to get to and from work.
+1Same here.
The people who say "oh i simply couldnt drive a diesel car" clearly dont do big commutes.
Though I also have a bike so if it gets too expensive I'll just use that and be cold.
mike-r said:
Not necessarily. My commute is going up from 20 miles a day to about 60, and I'm looking at some bigger V8s to make it comfier than my peasant-spec I6.
Though I also have a bike so if it gets too expensive I'll just use that and be cold.
Sometimes its not the £ its the constant time wasted at the petrol pumps. Throughout winter in filling up every 3 days maybe more - so driving rain bitterly cold long wait to full up etc, compared to filling up once every two weeks makes a huge difference heck once a month fill up would be bliss. Though I also have a bike so if it gets too expensive I'll just use that and be cold.
Tesla S p85+ makes a lot of sense power of F10 M5 and £100 for 15k miles on electricity less if you generate your own electric.
I don't care about mpg, I drive what I want (and can afford). I'm not on mega money and quite frankly, can barely afford to run the car I do but I enjoy it.
I have neither the space nor the funds to justify two cars and quite frankly, I would go insane if I had to drive some stty eurobox. I like having something slightly out of the ordinary and just couldn't face having to get into something mundane every day.
I ran a MkIV Supra for 8 years and now have an XK8 as my daily. I do 300 miles a week and average around 25mpg. As long as I can afford to put petrol in it, I shall. I might be stuck on the M6 going to and from work, but I get to listen to a burbling v8.
I have neither the space nor the funds to justify two cars and quite frankly, I would go insane if I had to drive some stty eurobox. I like having something slightly out of the ordinary and just couldn't face having to get into something mundane every day.
I ran a MkIV Supra for 8 years and now have an XK8 as my daily. I do 300 miles a week and average around 25mpg. As long as I can afford to put petrol in it, I shall. I might be stuck on the M6 going to and from work, but I get to listen to a burbling v8.
Welshbeef said:
mike-r said:
Not necessarily. My commute is going up from 20 miles a day to about 60, and I'm looking at some bigger V8s to make it comfier than my peasant-spec I6.
Though I also have a bike so if it gets too expensive I'll just use that and be cold.
Sometimes its not the £ its the constant time wasted at the petrol pumps. Throughout winter in filling up every 3 days maybe more - so driving rain bitterly cold long wait to full up etc, compared to filling up once every two weeks makes a huge difference heck once a month fill up would be bliss. Though I also have a bike so if it gets too expensive I'll just use that and be cold.
Tesla S p85+ makes a lot of sense power of F10 M5 and £100 for 15k miles on electricity less if you generate your own electric.
My main concern is overall reliability, having the car off the road for a few days while it's being repaired is a pain for both the wallet and for convenience. I'd rather have a big N/A petrol with not much to go wrong, especially at the 100k miles plus end of the market I accommodate (where the interesting things are).
AnimalMkIV said:
I don't care about mpg, I drive what I want (and can afford). I'm not on mega money and quite frankly, can barely afford to run the car I do but I enjoy it.
I have neither the space nor the funds to justify two cars and quite frankly, I would go insane if I had to drive some stty eurobox. I like having something slightly out of the ordinary and just couldn't face having to get into something mundane every day.
I ran a MkIV Supra for 8 years and now have an XK8 as my daily. I do 300 miles a week and average around 25mpg. As long as I can afford to put petrol in it, I shall. I might be stuck on the M6 going to and from work, but I get to listen to a burbling v8.
Jag XK is a lovely car you'll lose little on depreciation plus its a DB7 in drag I have neither the space nor the funds to justify two cars and quite frankly, I would go insane if I had to drive some stty eurobox. I like having something slightly out of the ordinary and just couldn't face having to get into something mundane every day.
I ran a MkIV Supra for 8 years and now have an XK8 as my daily. I do 300 miles a week and average around 25mpg. As long as I can afford to put petrol in it, I shall. I might be stuck on the M6 going to and from work, but I get to listen to a burbling v8.
mike-r said:
This is true.
My main concern is overall reliability, having the car off the road for a few days while it's being repaired is a pain for both the wallet and for convenience. I'd rather have a big N/A petrol with not much to go wrong, especially at the 100k miles plus end of the market I accommodate (where the interesting things are).
Thing is take a 330d these do 300-500k miles, 100k is just running in miles such a great car efficient reasonable growl under load fast ish and can allow for a crazy weekend /summer fun car with the savingsMy main concern is overall reliability, having the car off the road for a few days while it's being repaired is a pain for both the wallet and for convenience. I'd rather have a big N/A petrol with not much to go wrong, especially at the 100k miles plus end of the market I accommodate (where the interesting things are).
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