Colin McRae - 7 Years ago we lost a true Petrol Head.
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We did indeed. A legend. But I must say that my memories of him are tainted by his having flown without a licence and therefore insurance, as well as not asking permission from the parents of the boy who was killed.
A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
Edited by Soov535 on Monday 15th September 16:29
LeeThr said:
Very true, but then again that was always Colin's style, against the book, "if in doubt flat out". Unfortunately it just bit him in the end. And such a shame it was the way it was as well.
Sye, and let's face it we've all done things we shouldn't have in our excitement. There but for the grace of and all that.Soov535 said:
We did indeed. A legend. But I must say that my memories of him are tainted by his having flown without a licence and therefore insurance.
A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
This.A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
For me, all his greatness gets pushed aside when I think of the grief the Porcelli's had to deal with.
"Ben Porcelli's distraught parents, Mark and Karen Porcelli, said at the time that McRae had never asked permission to take their son on the flight"
Soov535 said:
We did indeed. A legend. But I must say that my memories of him are tainted by his having flown without a licence and therefore insurance, as well as not asking permission from the parents of the boy who was killed.
A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
I don't think it was as bad as one might think, from reading your post. He did have a license, but it had timed out. A short flight would have sorted that out. It does not of course mean that he did not make some really bad decisions that day which led to his and his passengers deaths.A genius, no doubt about it, but a catastrophically bad judgement which ended three lives as well as his own.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/sep/06/colin-mc...
Edited by Soov535 on Monday 15th September 16:29
He always pushed to the nth degree. This time he pushed too far.
Sad.
Guardian said:
In a lengthy and damning ruling following a fatal accident inquiry into the crash, Stewart found that McRae, 39, was guilty of a series of dangerous, reckless and unjustified manoeuvres during the flight, including flying at very low level and failing to follow basic rules of airmanship.
She confirmed the driver, who became world famous for endorsing the hit computer racing games Colin McRae Rally and Dirt, did not have the correct flying licence or authorisation for operating that type of helicopter, and was flying illegally.
Doing the above with kids on board, and some posts here have a "there but for the grace of god" tilt to them?????????????She confirmed the driver, who became world famous for endorsing the hit computer racing games Colin McRae Rally and Dirt, did not have the correct flying licence or authorisation for operating that type of helicopter, and was flying illegally.
My thinking is what makes a great rally driver isn't what makes a great pilot, aviators need to be a bit anal, rally driving is about risk taking but flying a helicopter is about minimising as much of the inherent risk as possible, rally driving can be dangerous but rally cars fly at just a few feet, not several thousand. Aerial displays may look pretty dramatic but are carefully devised to remain as safe as possible, this just sounded like arsing about in a helicopter, showing off, the ultimate "Watch this moment".
I know a lot of people manage to own helicopters safely but it is scary how often we hear of someone coming to grief with one, even professionally flown ones like the Police one in Glasgow do, perhaps one thing to resist buying if your numbers come up (on the Euro lottery).
I know a lot of people manage to own helicopters safely but it is scary how often we hear of someone coming to grief with one, even professionally flown ones like the Police one in Glasgow do, perhaps one thing to resist buying if your numbers come up (on the Euro lottery).
J4CKO said:
My thinking is what makes a great rally driver isn't what makes a great pilot, aviators need to be a bit anal, rally driving is about risk taking but flying a helicopter is about minimising as much of the inherent risk as possible, rally driving can be dangerous but rally cars fly at just a few feet, not several thousand. Aerial displays may look pretty dramatic but are carefully devised to remain as safe as possible, this just sounded like arsing about in a helicopter, showing off, the ultimate "Watch this moment".
I know a lot of people manage to own helicopters safely but it is scary how often we hear of someone coming to grief with one, even professionally flown ones like the Police one in Glasgow do, perhaps one thing to resist buying if your numbers come up (on the Euro lottery).
I must admit, helis are the one thing which I am actually scared of flying in.I know a lot of people manage to own helicopters safely but it is scary how often we hear of someone coming to grief with one, even professionally flown ones like the Police one in Glasgow do, perhaps one thing to resist buying if your numbers come up (on the Euro lottery).
Kind of confirms my theory that helicopters evolved as wealthy people tended to get good medical care, healthy food and other protection, therefore they didn't have any natural predators, so a big, complex, unstable, whirly thing that doesn't glide when it conks out was invented to provide a way to keep the numbers of rich people down.
I don't mind planes flying over (good job near Manchester Aiport), but a few locals seem to have choppers and the Police one occasionally makes an appearance, seriously, just ps off with it !
http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-people-who-died-...
I don't mind planes flying over (good job near Manchester Aiport), but a few locals seem to have choppers and the Police one occasionally makes an appearance, seriously, just ps off with it !
http://www.ranker.com/list/famous-people-who-died-...
A waste of four lives, which could have easily been avoided.
My uncle does a bit of flying (inc. aerobatics), behind the wheel he's a bit of a thrill seeker but once he's in an aircraft it's strictly by the book. Although I think that's more because he'd hate to lose his licence to fly more than anything.
My uncle does a bit of flying (inc. aerobatics), behind the wheel he's a bit of a thrill seeker but once he's in an aircraft it's strictly by the book. Although I think that's more because he'd hate to lose his licence to fly more than anything.
monthefish said:
This.
For me, all his greatness gets pushed aside when I think of the grief the Porcelli's had to deal with.
"Ben Porcelli's distraught parents, Mark and Karen Porcelli, said at the time that McRae had never asked permission to take their son on the flight"
That is deeply shocking. I never read the finer details back at the time of the incident. For me, all his greatness gets pushed aside when I think of the grief the Porcelli's had to deal with.
"Ben Porcelli's distraught parents, Mark and Karen Porcelli, said at the time that McRae had never asked permission to take their son on the flight"
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