Colin McRae - 7 Years ago we lost a true Petrol Head.

[Mr SFJ]

Wow. 7 Years, It seems like 2, not 7.

[surveyor]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

To be fair, it does not seem to end well when they do conk out very often.

[J4CKO]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

Well, they don't really do they, I am aware of autorotation but it still remains that Helicopters aren't much use when the engine isn't working, have seen pilots being trained for it but there are so many ifs and buts for it to provide much confidence.

[McWigglebum4th]

J4CKO said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

Well, they don't really do they, I am aware of autorotation but it still remains that Helicopters aren't much use when the engine isn't working, have seen pilots being trained for it but there are so many ifs and buts for it to provide much confidence.

They fall is a semi controlled fashion

[J4CKO]

McWigglebum4th said:

J4CKO said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

Well, they don't really do they, I am aware of autorotation but it still remains that Helicopters aren't much use when the engine isn't working, have seen pilots being trained for it but there are so many ifs and buts for it to provide much confidence.

They fall is a semi controlled fashion

Does it actually happen outside training and how much shorter do you end up ?

[cidered77]

J4CKO said:

McWigglebum4th said:

J4CKO said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

Well, they don't really do they, I am aware of autorotation but it still remains that Helicopters aren't much use when the engine isn't working, have seen pilots being trained for it but there are so many ifs and buts for it to provide much confidence.

They fall is a semi controlled fashion

Does it actually happen outside training and how much shorter do you end up ?

There are loads of posts on this subject, one of which posts the full air crash investigation - which I read all the way through. It's all been said before, but I and a lot people (most of them fathers i would imagine) have a very hard time eulogising a man whose crass irresponsibility took the lives of two kids (one not his own, and up there without his parent's permission). He didn't have a valid license to be flying it, he flew too low and lost it. Two kids died. Never posting on it again because it's just too stty a subject to be honest.

Edited by cidered77 on Tuesday 16th September 10:04

[S10GTA]

DeolTheBeast said:

Legend

The word you were looking for is

[J4CKO]

S10GTA said:

DeolTheBeast said:

Legend

The word you were looking for is

I think this is a very emotive subject and he did make a grave error of judgement that cost four lives, people make mistakes and nothing we say will bring anyone back.

I have friends eulogising on FB and producing the same old photos of them in their twenties in a photo with CM like he was their best mate, it irks a little but they obviously feel great affection for him, no point mentioning this, s like I said, wont make any difference apart from them getting all aggressive for daring to say anything, no good will come of it, he fked up, people know he did, no need to keep bringing it back up.

[wolves_wanderer]

J4CKO said:

McWigglebum4th said:

J4CKO said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

J4CKO said:

doesn't glide when it conks out

Showing your lack of knowledge there

Well, they don't really do they, I am aware of autorotation but it still remains that Helicopters aren't much use when the engine isn't working, have seen pilots being trained for it but there are so many ifs and buts for it to provide much confidence.

They fall is a semi controlled fashion

Does it actually happen outside training and how much shorter do you end up ?

Yes and not at all.

How much use are planes with no engine?

[Baryonyx]

hora said:

TBH whose fault is that? Sad but true.

Yes it was a terrible shame, and I suspect Colin would deeply regret his actions if he were here. But we've dwelled on the past for too long. It's time to let it go and just remember him for the sporting hero he was to so many. Everyone makes mistakes, few pay as dearly as he did.

[Ali_T]

I don't think his fate and mistake take away from his status as a legend in his professional life. I knew the father of Graeme Duncan (the other adult in the helicopter) very well. He was my parasitology lecturer and class president in university, and also a close friend of my in-laws, so I know the devastation the accident caused to them. But he was still a legend. Just one that, much like his professional life, took too many risks when he really shouldn't have.

[eybic]

wolves_wanderer said:

es and not at all.

How much use are planes with no engine?

A plane is designed to fall "gracefully" without an engine whereas I believe a heli will drop out of the sky a LOT quicker than can be considered safe.

[Soov535]

Baryonyx said:

hora said:

TBH whose fault is that? Sad but true.

Yes it was a terrible shame, and I suspect Colin would deeply regret his actions if he were here. But we've dwelled on the past for too long. It's time to let it go and just remember him for the sporting hero he was to so many. Everyone makes mistakes, few pay as dearly as he did.

Not sure I agree.

Say he was a 19 year old boxer with a Ferrari FF, who went out without a licence or insurance and drove recklessly, killing himself, his passenger and his son, and his own son.

What would we say then??

[Baryonyx]

Soov535 said:

Not sure I agree.

Say he was a 19 year old boxer with a Ferrari FF, who went out without a licence or insurance and drove recklessly, killing himself, his passenger and his son, and his own son.

What would we say then??

We'd say he was a fking tit, but this isn't some young scumbag we're talking about, it's Colin McRae, the local lad done good. He's a legend and a hero, with occasionally errant judgement.

[J4CKO]

Hero and Legend are much overused words, he was a famous sportsman who had a degree of success and was very popular, he could drive a car very quickly through forests and avoid the scenery at least 75 percent of the time and by all accounts was a nice bloke.

People do over eulogise, think the adulation is way deeper than the bloke in question, its cars, rallying and all that, he is a focal point, the embodiment of the whole, and being no longer with us seems to help in that "legend", same with Ayrton Senna.

[Pommygranite]

Hero? Why do people keep calling him a hero? What's he done that's so heroic?

He drove a car really quick for immense financial and personal reward. Talented yes. Heroic? Not a chance.

Perspective required.

[birdcage]

Bloke was an arse

[soad]

A great driver and I am sure a good pilot. His reactions and eye and hand co-ordination were world-class.
Unfortunately, the man is not here to defend himself.

RIP to all the deceased, they were all too young to die.

[Pommygranite]

soad said:

A great driver and I am sure a good pilot. Unfortunately, the man is not here to defend himself.

Sure he's a good pilot? Really?

There's not much to defend is there unless it categorically was not his fault.

[otolith]

Don't make heroes of sportsmen, they're just fallible humans like the rest of us.