RE: Renaultsport Megane R26.R: PH Heroes
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The cage is bolt-in, right? So you could remove it and create a mighty-fun van. 
I've occasionally wondered if you could stick a couple of fixed-back fibreglass bucket seats in the back of one and make the front seats hinge forwards.
I've occasionally wondered if you could stick a couple of fixed-back fibreglass bucket seats in the back of one and make the front seats hinge forwards.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 18th September 15:13
roystinho said:
kambites said:
The cage is bolt-in, right? So you could remove it and create a mighty-fun van.
The cage was an optional extra so some don't even have them, just a strut bracekambites said:
roystinho said:
kambites said:
The cage is bolt-in, right? So you could remove it and create a mighty-fun van.
The cage was an optional extra so some don't even have them, just a strut bracePretty sure they still have the brace, though never looked at both side by side to know 100%
don logan said:
roystinho said:
I [i]think[/] you're making that up
Pretty sure they still have the brace, though never looked at both side by side to know 100%
They either have cage or brace, never neither from the factory!Pretty sure they still have the brace, though never looked at both side by side to know 100%
kambites said:
Ah OK, thanks. I wonder whether that provides an appreciable rigidity gain. I guess they wouldn't have put it there if it didn't.
Not being funny but why do you care? If there were some detail on a car that I always criticised and had no intention of ever owning I wouldn`t bother asking questions about it!
it`s like me asking about something in a Nissan Primera`s glove box or whether it`s possible to open the boot of a Mk3 Escort from the inside.
I understand that people are curious about details in 6 figure hypercars that they will probably never be able to buy but this is hardly the same!
don logan said:
kambites said:
Ah OK, thanks. I wonder whether that provides an appreciable rigidity gain. I guess they wouldn't have put it there if it didn't.
Not being funny but why do you care? 
Specifically, I was wondering whether it would be viable to retro-fit a pair of lightweight fixed-back bucket seats into the back, and then hinge the front seats so you could get to them. I suspect you could re-add much of the lost practicality without adding more than about 20kg. Probably not something I'd ever do myself, just wondering whether it would be possible without hurting the handling to the point that you might as well have just bought an ordinary R26 (which is, of course, already a fine handling car).
If people didn't comment on cars they don't intend to own, PH would be a very quiet, rather dull place.
Alex said:
"Perhaps the Megane simply was too compromised."
Don't you mean uncompromised?
No. The car is uncompromising in its intention to be the ultimate FWD hatch and compromised as a regular everyday car through having two racing seats with harnesses, no radio, less sound deadening and so on.Don't you mean uncompromised?
Matt
kambites said:
don logan said:
kambites said:
Ah OK, thanks. I wonder whether that provides an appreciable rigidity gain. I guess they wouldn't have put it there if it didn't.
Not being funny but why do you care? Specifically, I was wondering whether it would be viable to retro-fit a pair of lightweight fixed-back bucket seats into the back, and then hinge the front seats so you could get to them. I suspect you could re-add much of the lost practicality without adding more than about 20kg. Probably not something I'd ever do myself, just wondering whether it would be possible without hurting the handling to the point that you might as well have just bought an ordinary R26 (which is, of course, already a fine handling car).
If people didn't comment on cars they don't intend to own, PH would be a very quiet, rather dull place.
PH is very naughty for bringing this subject up again, when are we going to have a religion forum to really get things going!
don logan said:
I think that it is exactly this kind of thinking that has helped form your misguided opinion of the R26R, you are wondering whether it would be possible to mount some lightweight seats into the back of an R26R, then hinge the front seats?
So if you wanted to create the best handling modern four-seater hot hatch that you could, what would you start with if not an R26.R, and why? Maybe it would be easier to strip out and lighten an R26 or even a previous generation RS Clio? No-one else seems to be able to get anywhere near Renault in terms of FWD handling these days, so there's not an enormous amount of choice without doing a lot of setup work oneself. ETA: I don't really understand why you'd be so against the idea. Do you really think adding ~20kg, mostly at floor-pan level, would ruin the way the car drives? That's about a quarter of a tank of fuel and probably located in a better place than the fuel.
Edited by kambites on Thursday 18th September 16:03
TrackMegane said:
kambites said:
So if you wanted to create the best handling modern four-seater hot hatch that you could, what would you start with if not an R26.R, and why?
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