RE: Ford Mustang GT: Driven

[unpc]

I might have just found my next new car. I bought a 95 Mustang Cobra new when I lived over there and it was pants in nearly all respects but I still loved it. There's a sense of occasion in Mustangs that's just not present in most European cars at this price level. A job that involves me doing less miles than current will seal the deal.

[RenesisEvo]

wtdoom said:

Strangely enough I now find the recent crop of American cars more appealing than the European counterparts . The new vette, the hellcat , Camaro z28 etc all cracking bits of kit .
Finding the new Porsche , Ferrari , amg etc offerings a bit samey ( !!! ) , I can't believe I've just written that .

You're not alone - while European sports cars have embraced electric power steering and twin-clutch automatics en masse, the Americans have stayed more faithful to the original sports car philosophy. Some of the power figures are getting a bit absurd (i.e. where's it going to end?), though it's rather nice to think that your dealer can sell you a car with over 700hp. With a warranty. I never thought I'd find myself wanting a Mustang or a Corvette, but here we are. The times they are a-changin'.

Edited by RenesisEvo on Monday 29th September 17:37

[croyde]

As I am getting used to barreling my massive Mercury sedan V8 through the London streets and starting to think that it actually handles ok, and is pretty fast off the line for a 2 ton car, the idea of this new Mustang really appeals and boy! will it feel lithe and fast compared to my old V8

[irocfan]

still not sure about the styling, liking the interior though. It does look great in yellow

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-ford-mustang-f...

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/09/24/2015-ford-musta...

[Zad]

If anyone wants to see how seriously Ford USA takes tuning, have a look at: http://www.fordracingparts.com

For example:

Ford said:

2011-2014 MUSTANG GT 624 HP SUPERCHARGER BLACK
M-6066-MGT624D*
Suggested Retail Price
$7,499.00


Black Wrinkle Finish. For Polished Finish see M-6066-MGT624PD
Fits 2011-2014 Mustang GT with MANUAL transmission. For 2005-2006 Mustang GT see M-6066-M11, 2007 see M-6066-M117, 2008-2009 see M-6066-M118, 2010 see M-6066-MGT550C
Produces 624 SAE hp @ 6900 rpm and 536 SAE lb-ft @ 4700 rpm, at approximately 9 psi of boost with 93 octane fuel
Calibration eliminates "skip-shift" feature
For optimum engine performance, Ford Racing recommends M-12405-M50 Ford Racing spark plugs.

Kit Includes:

2.3L Twin Screw Whipple Supercharger Assembly
Intake manifold, electronic throttle body, air inlet system, fuel rail
Complete air-to-liquid intercooler system with intercooler pump, heat exchanger and intercooler reservoir
Drive Belt: FEAD 6-rib system
47 lb/hr, 6-hole, high-impedance fuel injectors M-9593-LU47
Ford Racing ProCal tool with performance calibration for significantly improved throttle response and performance feel.

Due to multiple powertrain calibrations, online registration is required to receive ProCal calibration delivery tool after purchase
Ford Racing does not ship ProCal tools directly overseas. Customers must make special arrangements with their Ford Racing Distributor
Powertrain calibrations are developed and supported for U.S. and Canadian vehicles only
Unlike our competitors, this Ford Racing Power Upgrade Package is 50 state emissions legal
Federal and state laws prohibit any person from installing aftermarket add-on or modified parts prior to the sale of a new motor vehicle

For full details of what the package contains, and how to fit it, here is a 69 page PDF: http://www.fordracingparts.com/download/instructio...

Shame about the not delivering ProCal overseas, but I'm sure that is work-around-able.

[P4ROT]

Gecko1978 said:

£35K +5K for a supercharger.....hello 911 turbo type performance (perhaps only in a straight line). This might be the next Monaro etc, but at 35k it will sell in bigger numbers than the rebadged Holden did.

Perhaps?

P.S. My OCD meant that I had to change your spelling, grammar and punctuation; I mean no disrespect in doing so.

[Reavenger]

I think the interior looks brilliant. Much better than the button clustered rubbish at the moment.

Autocar says 31mpg US highway which is 37mpg UK. If I got 33-34mpg I'd be pleased.

What do they arrive on British shores?

[Wills2]

mcbook said:

That looks absolutely stunning. £35k seems like good value, too.

When you weigh it up against competitors, it is quite compelling.

BMW M235i
Nissan 370Z

Not sure I can think of any more fast 2 doors coupes at that price.

I agree and at sub 35k it will be good value, but it will be the finance deals that will count. If they can match the Germans then I think it will sell.

[kambites]

Wills2 said:

I agree and at sub 35k it will be good value, but it will be the finance deals that will count. If they can match the Germans then I think it will sell.

And that will come down to residuals, which I think are quite hard to predict.

[J4CKO]

kambites said:

Wills2 said:

I agree and at sub 35k it will be good value, but it will be the finance deals that will count. If they can match the Germans then I think it will sell.

And that will come down to residuals, which I think are quite hard to predict.

Yeah, now its "official", the earlier ones seem to command decent prices, they seem more expensive now than five years ago, but that is a very small market, not sure there will be that much in common between them, initally the new one will do really well due to a lack of supply, longer term, not sure but I would imagine it will be as good as the German stuff, just because it isnt, and isnt oversupplied, will need to see whether it captures the publics imagination.

[kambites]

I agree, the relatively high supply and greater appeal of a UK market RHD car is bound to drive prices down compared to the rather specialist earlier models.

I'd guess it'll do slightly worse than the "premium" German stuff but probably better than things like the 370Z and RX8. Perhaps on a par with the GT86? I suspect the V8 will have markedly worse residuals than the Ecoboost four, although I guess that'll depend heavily on the ratio of new cars sold.

Edited by kambites on Monday 29th September 19:00

[engineer666]

Been looking at buying an older LHD V8 2007 upwards Mustang, but if this new one does what it says on the tin I can't help wondering if the older cars prices will now drop?

[irocfan]

engineer666 said:

Been looking at buying an older LHD V8 2007 upwards Mustang, but if this new one does what it says on the tin I can't help wondering if the older cars prices will now drop?

that really is a difficult one - the issue is that most earlier Mustangs are enthusiast bought and the LHD thing isn't really an issue for most. I guess it may persuade some that just wanted a Mustang to change up but I'd imagine that the vast majority of those looking to get the S550 will be fresh to the brand


oh enjoy the vid too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37HQeSOXSoY#t=193

[Gecko1978]

P4ROT said:

Perhaps?

P.S. My OCD meant that I had to change your spelling, grammar and punctuation; I mean no disrespect in doing so.

That's fine happy to be upgraded grammatically speaking. I have no idea how well a mustang will handle I know the latest boss 302 had rave reviews I doubt a 35k car will come close to a 911 but I suspect getting very large bhp say 600 plus from the car will be relatively easy an thus you could have a 190mph plus car for less than a well spec'd three series.

[aka_kerrly]

Dagnut said:

I wonder what the live axle defenders will have to say?

Might be worth a read...
http://www.motortrend.com/features/consumer/1407_t...

[FWDRacer]

Hot diggety. Yee-haw. I gotta get me one 'o them.

[irocfan]

Wills2 said:

I agree and at sub 35k it will be good value, but it will be the finance deals that will count. If they can match the Germans then I think it will sell.

here you go - upset yourself!

http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustang?branding=1&a...

finance for the S550 goes as low as 1.9% APR - somehow suspect we'll not see that rate over here

[Wills2]

irocfan said:

Wills2 said:

I agree and at sub 35k it will be good value, but it will be the finance deals that will count. If they can match the Germans then I think it will sell.

here you go - upset yourself!

http://bp3.ford.com/2015-Ford-Mustang?branding=1&a...

finance for the S550 goes as low as 1.9% APR - somehow suspect we'll not see that rate over here

Maybe not but IIRC Ford do/have done zero rate finance in the UK as do Merc, not on all cars of course but 4.9 seems about average.

[Clivey]

FWDRacer said:

Hot diggety. Yee-haw. I gotta get me one 'o them.

10-4 Good buddy!

I'll take one in Ruby Red with black Torq-thrust wheels, some extra lights in the grille and the kind of exhaust this thing deserves.

[vanschpunk]

Off the V8 topic, but the 2.3 L Ecoboost doesnt sound too shabby

http://youtu.be/xDKLB09j1fo