RE: V12 Ferraris: Catch It While you Can

RE: V12 Ferraris: Catch It While you Can

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Dale487

1,334 posts

124 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Vee12V said:
Always loved the 612 for being understated, a manual one is high on the list!
I couldn't agree more - Scags look superb in blue, grey or black (but rubbish in red like most big Ferraris - no sure why though).

Haven't a large number of 400s been chopped up for making 250GTO (& the like) replicas?

smilo996

2,795 posts

171 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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If at Brands with half an hour to spare, Foskers is a place worth sticking a nose into. Went a couple of years ago. P4/5 replica being built, one of Ferrari's flat 12's in bits, another V12 on the bench. Interesting cars in storage and a ring of classic and rare Ducati's on the balcony.

Would take a 456 or 575 out of all those offered. The others, especially the 612 just do nothing for me.

suffolk009

5,429 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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My wife talked me down from certain financial ruin on a 400. Must have been ten years ago, manual, red, low-ish miles, £6000.

I've only ever stood next to one 612. What amazed me was the size of the thing. It's bloody enormous.

456 is just meh.

Phateuk

751 posts

138 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Didn't a guy on here buy a 456 for ~ £17k not long ago? Think there's a thread documenting his costs/usage - great read smile

mon the fish

1,419 posts

149 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Claret Badger said:
Great article, but Im sorry, a decent Ferrari 550 was not £35k a year ago. Not even close.

They started at about £45k and you had to pay at least £50k for a decent one. You are now looking at £65k - £70k so still a good increase over the year.
Exactly. I paid £55k in January for a silver one with 32k miles, it's now insured for £75k (not necessarily saying it's worth that, just what it would cost to replace)

When I was looking a year ago, £40k was where it was at for the higher mileage ones, they're now £50k and up

Wills2

22,878 posts

176 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Never used to like the look of these, but this looks great to me now:




dinkel

26,959 posts

259 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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0llie said:
I'm not a big Ferrari fan, but I love their front engined GTs and their 4 seaters.



cloud9
Agreed:








Even the Tjaarda 250 is worth a 2nd look.

jakesmith

9,461 posts

172 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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The 400 is an absolute pig to look at, it hardly has classic lines does it
Ferarri are like Merc & BMW in that their design progression is so drastic that their old cars look really dated. As a driving experience I really couldn't care less about the old stuff, anything before the 430 or 599 for me. Not that it will ever be a consideration!

unpc

2,837 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Wills2 said:
Separated at birth?



All the looks without the ruinously expensive mechanicals being based on an Opel Commodore IIRC.

Still wouldn't though.

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Some of the copied looks, with none of the iconic pedigree, mechanical refinement, power or speed ?

911Thrasher

2,573 posts

200 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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I would take a nice black 612 HGTC anytime...lovely car with real 4 seats and luggage space.
412i...hmmm sounds lovely too, but worried about reliability.

Nothing from their respective era look the same - unique cars in that sense.


456...looks like a bog Peugeot 406

huggies

55 posts

186 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Oh please more "investment" c**p
Fact is none of these cars were the best, or mostly, even close to being the best of kind in era
Because they carry a nodding donkey on the badge blokes with a few bob and no idea decide to try to make money by hyping them up
Bring back 1989 and the crash in "values"

unpc

2,837 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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daytona365 said:
Some of the copied looks, with none of the iconic pedigree, mechanical refinement, power or speed ?
I never said they were any good. Less prone to expensive borkage though. I don't think the Bitter SC will ever fetch this kind of money.

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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They're nice enough cars in their own right.

Edited by daytona365 on Thursday 13th November 16:44

Pickled

2,051 posts

144 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Wills2 said:
Never used to like the look of these, but this looks great to me now:



Few years back (10+) I was at an auction at Sandown and a 400i came up, I thought it would be a good idea to start bidding, luckily (or unluckily) my bottle went at £7k, and there was someone else happy to pay the final bid of just under £8k, don't think the wife would have every forgave me if id have turned up with a brown Ferrari that had the ability financially cripple most people.

I still idly have a look through the classifieds for them as, to me anyway, they are fantastic looking cars, just the thought of anything ever going wrong and the cost of getting it fixed soon snaps me out of it, and this is coming from someone who runs a 928 as a (semi) daily!

sideways man

1,320 posts

138 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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As a mechanic in the familly garage,we used to look after a 400.
Although a few years old,I hope it had a hard life because it was a horrible thing to drive and worse to maintain. Trying to get parts was a nightmare due to lack of availability. Made me realise ferraris of this era are to be looked at,not driven. Or at least get someone else to fix them smile

suffolk009

5,429 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Isn't the 400 the-market's-about-to-crash measure? ie, once 400s start to command real money you know investors who see nothing more than the badge and a v12 buy them. This is inevitably followed by what the auctioneer will merely call a "correction".

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

190 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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Ferrari 250 GTE. Currently sub £150k.

I reckon they'll be close to £200k very soon.

That is where I would put my money. I had the chance to buy one around a year ago but did not have the patience to potentially wait 5 years for a marginal increase.

How wrong I was!

haroonok

70 posts

214 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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612 scaglietti is a magnificent car to own and drive irrespective of values.

Modificata

531 posts

247 months

Thursday 13th November 2014
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WCZ said:
what are 456 GT's like to drive?
They are great cars. I use mine as a daily driver and take it everywhere. I mean everywhere. Leave it at the station. Grocery shopping. School run. Pretty much all occassions.

I purchased mine in Jan this year and done everything it needed doing at home. I had a Ferrari mechanic friend help me in parts and the whole experience taught me a hell of a lot (I knew nothing before hand!).

I've probably spent about £5k though doing the following
Cambelts
cambelt bearings
fuel/oil filters/air/pollen filters
Spark plugs
oils
brake fluid
recon of radiator plus coolant change
All radiator hoses (every single one!)
Water pump belt
AC Condesner belt
ac condenser (to be fitted still - no point in the winter)
Battery
new windscreen (insurnace covered it)

Plus lots lots more. A lot of things have been preventative, or one of those while we are at it jobs. The car came with no history, so I needed to create a baseline. Its the type of car that for most people the bargepole is too long. I took a (calculated) risk and was left as the winner when the ebay auction ended...

I've made a series of videos of the service for those who are interested. Here is the first. There are 21 in total:
http://youtu.be/-U4YXHbhNCE?list=UUHBclnL7_381gGPD...