RE: Mercedes-AMG GT: Review

RE: Mercedes-AMG GT: Review

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A Scotsman

1,000 posts

200 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Is it LHD only?

soad

32,933 posts

177 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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A Scotsman said:
Is it LHD only?
Recycled photos. wink

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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That looks properly good! Don't like the spoiler though. I'll take mine in that yellow colour.

Wizardskills

243 posts

168 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Price and options list here:

http://tools.mercedes-benz.co.uk/current/passenger...

I need to win the lottery frown

RemarkLima

2,388 posts

213 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Why is the "transmission" tunnel so fat when the actual transmission is at the rear of the car?

Otherwise, does look an awful lot like the SLS, but that's not a bad thing.

Still, the 911 and GTR have token rear seats so does change the competition a little...

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Please stop using the word skids when you are referring to the driven wheels over-rotating.

Skids and slides refer to wheels being under-rotated relative to the velocity of the vehicle.

You comment is to show excess power, so skids or slides, is the wrong terminology. Blame Chris Harris who seems to have led unsuspecting journo's down the wrong path.

Calibration is another journo phrase that is over used at the moment and will no doubt die a death.


GreatPretender

26,140 posts

215 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Josco010 said:
Do i want a 911?...Lol!! After listening to this AMG, then going back to listen to the GT3rs or rs4.0 or just the new GT3, thats not even a question to ask... I will give both my nuts to have anyone of the GT3's listed above anytime, mind you the AMG will appeal to those who don't appreciate the Porcker, muscle or Hot Rod car sound(Merc, Audi) vs screaming race bred engine(Porsche, BMW M's).
Whereas I'd have the Merc. And I say that as a GT3 owner smile


Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

155 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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It's a fine looking thing and that is a worthy write up. I have a suspicion that if I had the folding or the resources to feed the finance I would be after one its predecessors, have a real soft spot for the SLS and I wonder if values will firm up with the arrival of its slightly littler brother.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

Weatherbee

33 posts

132 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I'll fall into the bucket of people who will need to see this in person (kicking myself for not driving down to Monterey as I live only a couple of hours away) as the looks haven't done anything for me thus far. I think the front is just "this" much too long. I'll still be looking more toward a 911 as that's an itch I have yet to scratch.

pigeonskirt

506 posts

140 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Gandahar said:
Please stop using the word skids when you are referring to the driven wheels over-rotating.

Skids and slides refer to wheels being under-rotated relative to the velocity of the vehicle.

You comment is to show excess power, so skids or slides, is the wrong terminology. Blame Chris Harris who seems to have led unsuspecting journo's down the wrong path.

Calibration is another journo phrase that is over used at the moment and will no doubt die a death.
Crikey, bet you're fun on a night out wink

ephancock77

30 posts

147 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Europa1 said:
Not sure about the looks side on - it looks like a 911 that has its nose pulled.
Was thinking exactly the same thing. Although I'm no fan particularly of the way the Porsche looks the looks of these does nothing for me very reminiscent of the long nose that accompanies itself to the z4.

hondansx

4,584 posts

226 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Gandahar said:
Please stop using the word skids when you are referring to the driven wheels over-rotating.

Skids and slides refer to wheels being under-rotated relative to the velocity of the vehicle.

You comment is to show excess power, so skids or slides, is the wrong terminology. Blame Chris Harris who seems to have led unsuspecting journo's down the wrong path.

Calibration is another journo phrase that is over used at the moment and will no doubt die a death.
F**k me... that's what you get out of this article?

I like the look of it, but i won't be removing the wallet out my back pocket without it going back to back with a facelift Porsche 991.

0a

23,906 posts

195 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I really like the look of that. With the F Type the 911 type punter has a great choice at the moment.

samoht

5,778 posts

147 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Interesting to read about the turbo engine being mapped for a progressive delivery. I think the key thing is that the 911 Turbo and GTR are 4wd, so can accept a huge boost spike, whereas in an FR car the driver needs to be able to feed in the power gradually, so the torque needs to rise gradually with revs. Interestingly a low rpm torque peak doesn't preclude this, rather a torque plateau that starts low down means that in most real world cases, the torque is constant regardless of engine speed, because you are already on the plateau, which makes it much easier to judge how much the rear wheels can take.

The GT sounds great, a real front engine, rear drive driver's car, I hope they sell loads so they become cheap in ten years time☺


saunders70

3 posts

114 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I got to sit in one of these recently and it's a pretty special place to spend time. Not sure about long distance comfort - I'll have to try it wink Also heard it fire up, but for me the pops and bangs were a little too 'obvious'. Like you knew it was programmed in to the ECU. I mean, it was static!

Edmundo2

1,347 posts

211 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Naff wheels, wrong colour, nasty spoiler, average lazy sound. I'm sure in other specs I'd prefer it but I think GT3 would get my money, ( would ), and F type a better looker. Each to their own

Leggy

1,019 posts

223 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Glad I'm not in the market as I'd struggle to choose. The Jag had my vote but this is a serious contender.

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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I'm just about to be in a position to buy a car like this and it's an interesting market.

The GT seems more exclusive/different than the competition; the 991 more developed and price competitive and the Jaguar, more British.

Then you have the Cayman GTS as an absolute bargain.

It's a great time to be buying a car.

mr2j

516 posts

159 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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Encasing the exhaust manifold+turbo within the block means you can't bolt on bigger turbos for a start. This is a big challenge for tuners. With the VR38, Nissan made the turbos and manifolds one unit, meaning that you had to get custom manifolds for you bigger turbos, but it was not such a challenge, just an inconvenience. This however is basically saying two things; one - "we don't want to make tuning this thing too easy - in fact we don't want you to be able to reasonably do that at all", and two - "you can't even turn up the boost and remap this thing because thanks to our genius approach, intake temps will probably already be approaching those found on the surface of Mercury during Perihermion and you will melt ze pistons und vee vill laugh at you hahahaha."

Edit - unless keeping the turbos in the block reduces heat soak into the inlet after the intercooler, thereby totally negating point two of my "i think I'm smarter than AMG" diatribe. It was fun to type anyway and I'm still at work and want to go home/beer.

RDMcG

19,223 posts

208 months

Friday 14th November 2014
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GreatPretender said:
Josco010 said:
Do i want a 911?...Lol!! After listening to this AMG, then going back to listen to the GT3rs or rs4.0 or just the new GT3, thats not even a question to ask... I will give both my nuts to have anyone of the GT3's listed above anytime, mind you the AMG will appeal to those who don't appreciate the Porcker, muscle or Hot Rod car sound(Merc, Audi) vs screaming race bred engine(Porsche, BMW M's).
Whereas I'd have the Merc. And I say that as a GT3 owner smile
I will stay in the RS camp, but I do think this will some some serious damage to the 911 line overall, particularly for those buyers who are making a first time purchase at this level. A definite hit for Mercedes.