Seriously Overpriced Cars

Seriously Overpriced Cars

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lowdrag

12,897 posts

214 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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I have two cars that pay zero VED. They usually do a maximum of 2,500 miles a year, one at 20 mpg and the other 15 mpg. For the "damage" they do to the roads I pay enough in tax anyway by my reckoning.

John Locke

1,142 posts

53 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Back on topic:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1205450

Almost £1.00 for every mile that it has travelled.

itcaptainslow

3,703 posts

137 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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John Locke said:
Back on topic:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1205450

Almost £1.00 for every mile that it has travelled.
I do chuckle how these adverts always say “motor car” rather than just “car”.

Yes, because using the language of a plummy old Etonian makes it instantly worth a few grand more...

John Locke

1,142 posts

53 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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itcaptainslow said:
I do chuckle how these adverts always say “motor car” rather than just “car”.

Yes, because using the language of a plummy old Etonian makes it instantly worth a few grand more...
A clapped out old banger, is a clapped out old banger, regardless of the car salesman's purveyor of fine automotive works of art's education.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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itcaptainslow said:
I do chuckle how these adverts always say “motor car” rather than just “car”.

Yes, because using the language of a plummy old Etonian makes it instantly worth a few grand more...
Whenever I see "motor car", all it makes me think about is Jay Kay getting planted by that photographer next to his Bentley

bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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aaron_2000 said:
itcaptainslow said:
I do chuckle how these adverts always say “motor car” rather than just “car”.

Yes, because using the language of a plummy old Etonian makes it instantly worth a few grand more...
Whenever I see "motor car", all it makes me think about is Jay Kay getting planted by that photographer next to his Bentley
I would like to see that link, please smile

Fast Bug

11,706 posts

162 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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John Locke said:
A clapped out old banger, is a clapped out old banger, regardless of the car salesman's purveyor of fine automotive works of art's education.
Whilst it may be over priced, it's hardly a knackered Escort Encore is it?

schmalex

13,616 posts

207 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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bolidemichael said:
I would like to see that link, please smile
The diminutive cocksocket in all his glory... https://youtu.be/XRKc_AgAniI

Mr lestat

4,318 posts

191 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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schmalex said:
bolidemichael said:
I would like to see that link, please smile
The diminutive cocksocket in all his glory... https://youtu.be/XRKc_AgAniI
Fantastic. Arrogant little st

bolidemichael

13,883 posts

202 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Mr lestat said:
schmalex said:
bolidemichael said:
I would like to see that link, please smile
The diminutive cocksocket in all his glory... https://youtu.be/XRKc_AgAniI
Fantastic. Arrogant little st
Oof. That was indeed proper Glaswegian. One of the comments below the vid describes it as a 'cosmic headbutt' biggrin

A1VDY

3,575 posts

128 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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John Locke said:
Lord.Vader said:
uncleluck said:
mike74 said:
But if the prices of performance/exotic/classic cars come down due to punitive tax regimes and other disincentives that's not being doom and gloom for a true motoring enthusiast and petrolhead is it?

That's only a doom and gloom scenario for those ''investors'' who are wanting the prices of such cars to remain high and rising.
If the taxes are punitive and there’s disincentives then of coarse it’s a bad thing for enthusiasts! We’re the first who will be effected as it doesn’t work like that for rich people, they’re not going to care about tax and rich folk can do what they do now & buy them at auctions for huge prices. It’s not going to drop prices as it’s simple supply & demand. If people have a want for them and they’re wealthy enough they will be fighting over them at auction.

I still don’t believe they’ll do that though. As I said, the worst polluting cars on our roads today are old classics and they’re free to tax and you don’t even have to MOT them.

I just keep reading this doom and gloom rubbish on here and they must just be jealous people that can’t have what they want now let alone later in life.

“Wait til they do away with this”
“Wait til they tax that”
“Wait til you cant buy fuel”
“Get used to it”

HA HA!
What do you mean by most polluting? Based on their general usage classics are certainly not the most polluting, trucks / HGVs are.

I pay £575 or whatever VED for my Vantage, it does 2k miles per year, a car with 10% of the emissions that does x20 the mileage is twice as polluting, technically.

Our VED system is rubbish, it should be 0 and additional on the fuel, same for EV’s (which is going to happen as more people switch).
Exactly, VED is iniquitous; vehicles with heavy fuel consumption are either heavy, inefficient, or both, poluuting more than lighter / more efiicient vehicle per mile travelled. Since they consume more fuel, the user pays more tax per mile already.
Besides the abolition of VED, all that needs to change is a loading on diesel fuel to reflect the health damaging effects of its use, and a realistic taxation system for electric vehicles to take account of whole life pollution, including manufacture and disposal, plus of course to balance the books.


Edited by John Locke on Saturday 22 February 06:11
Loading on diesel fuel?
Remember, if you've got it a truck brought it.
Tax diesel more and transport costs go up leading to increased retail prices.
Dont mention Ev trucks as that will only ever apply to city delivery vehicles. Long haul won't have the range, will eat into drivers hours to charge and a vastly smaller payload due to battery weight.
Only way that would work is to exclude HGV's from extra taxation.


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Mr lestat said:
schmalex said:
bolidemichael said:
I would like to see that link, please smile
The diminutive cocksocket in all his glory... https://youtu.be/XRKc_AgAniI
Fantastic. Arrogant little st
Coke, arrogance, snobbiness and narcissism are one hell of a mix. Bet the photographer still tells it in the pub though biggrin

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,997 posts

101 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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20 big ones for a 31 year old Mini. Yes, it has just 12 miles, but £20k?!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/11030376/rare-mini...

schmalex

13,616 posts

207 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
20 big ones for a 31 year old Mini. Yes, it has just 12 miles, but £20k?!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/11030376/rare-mini...
I’d give £20k for that in a heartbeat to be honest

CRA1G

6,542 posts

196 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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schmalex said:
Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
20 big ones for a 31 year old Mini. Yes, it has just 12 miles, but £20k?!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/11030376/rare-mini...
I’d give £20k for that in a heartbeat to be honest
I bet your not the only one... it's an auction so it may well sell for more than £20k... it's one of a kind,where can anyone find another....! Wrong thread imo...

Section 8

541 posts

190 months

Monday 24th February 2020
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2007 Touareg V10 TDI going for £10,995. You what????

My friend has one identical to the advertised car and has offered it to me for 3 grand.

I turned him down and said I’d rather stick my genitals in a vice. For anyone not familiar with the V10s insane running costs just google for some proper scary repair bills. Voted one of the biggest automotive money pits ever! He’s seen the light though and gone for something sensible now....... a Land Rover 4.4 TDV8 with nearly 140k on it. Not quite learned his lesson yet.


https://www.gumtree.com/p/volkswagen/volkswagen-to...

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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This was sat for years at MotorHub for around £80k - £90k, now listed in Ireland for £115k in the exact same condition. Surely someone spending that much on one would want it to be absolutely original?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SIERRA-RS500-COSWO...

Fermit and Sexy Sarah

12,997 posts

101 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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aaron_2000 said:
This was sat for years at MotorHub for around £80k - £90k, now listed in Ireland for £115k in the exact same condition. Surely someone spending that much on one would want it to be absolutely original?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SIERRA-RS500-COSWO...
He's been reading this thread...

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SLAG AND SLOBBER OVER FORUMS IF YOU DONT LIKE THE PRICE BUT THATS USUALLY BY PEOPLE THAT EITHER DONT OWN AN RS500 , PROBABLY WILL NEVER OWN AN RS500 AND CERTAINLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT AN RS500 IS - BUT THAT IS THE PRICE !!

PostHeads123

1,042 posts

136 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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6k for a 1998 A3 1.8T https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1120098 .

This has got me thinking though I have a near immaculate 2002 A3 1.8t 76.5k miles I was going to sell due cambelt (last done in 2012) I was thinking £800-£1k for it as is, the car very clean - I recon if I spent circa £1k on it would be pretty much as new condition that the grand would cover cambelt / waterpump, alloy refurb, a few paint / smart repairs, recon its worth it ? I keep reading A3 of that era has potential as future classic, mine is like new inside had it 15 years.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

84 months

Friday 28th February 2020
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Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:
aaron_2000 said:
This was sat for years at MotorHub for around £80k - £90k, now listed in Ireland for £115k in the exact same condition. Surely someone spending that much on one would want it to be absolutely original?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-SIERRA-RS500-COSWO...
He's been reading this thread...

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO SLAG AND SLOBBER OVER FORUMS IF YOU DONT LIKE THE PRICE BUT THATS USUALLY BY PEOPLE THAT EITHER DONT OWN AN RS500 , PROBABLY WILL NEVER OWN AN RS500 AND CERTAINLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT AN RS500 IS - BUT THAT IS THE PRICE !!
He's right, I wouldn't ever own an RS500, especially not for an extra £35k for absolutely no extra work, especially especially when it came from MotorHub.