The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T (Vol XVII)

The Best ///M/Barge/General Rant/Look at this/O/T (Vol XVII)

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deadslow

8,024 posts

224 months

deadslow

8,024 posts

224 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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if you would spend nearly £0.25m on a 190, I give you....

http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/mercedes-190e-2-...


Patrick Bateman

12,205 posts

175 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Would be a bit difficult to drive in the straitjacket mind.

Leins

9,485 posts

149 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Crook said:
Because
hehehehehehe


deadslow said:
if you would spend nearly £0.25m on a 190, I give you....

http://www.fast-classics.com/cars/mercedes-190e-2-...

Is that the auctioned one from a few months back?

olly755

3,070 posts

163 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Leins said:
Some of the current values of the Japanese stuff are still a bit of a mystery to me, especially when you consider how good a rally car the likes of the Celica was


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/1999-SUBARU-IMPREZA...

Sit it next to an Integrale or EsCos in similar nick at £40k, and you can only conclude that the world is mad.

MattHall91

1,268 posts

125 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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deadslow said:
Agree.

Although I'd have to have a pretty comprehensive collection before I considered something like this.

ferrisbueller

29,362 posts

228 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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deadslow said:
Not a fan of the tax break special.

Compounded by the additional ducting's corruption of the full bore car's lines.

ferrisbueller

29,362 posts

228 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Crook said:
Leins said:
Nice article s_m! Some of the current values of the Japanese stuff are still a bit of a mystery to me, especially when you consider how good a rally car the likes of the Celica was

And I heard of someone picking up a relatively non-sheddy 850 T5 estate recently for buttons
I agree re the Celica GT4. I think it's an absolute bargain compared to the Euro rally stuff. Never driven a 4 but my younger brother had a couple of Celicas and they were great fun to punt about.

Example A: GT4

I also struggle to understand this.

OK, the Integrale was successful and the Quattro was gamechanging but the ST185 also won WRC championships.

Wiki said:
The ST185 is Toyota's most successful rally car. It won the WRC Driver's Championship in 1992, and the WRC Manufacturer's and Driver's Championships in 1993 and 1994. The ST205 came in late 1994, and became official rally car in 1995 with one WRC victory. It also won the 1996 European Rally Championship.

The significance of the Toyota Celica GT-Four in WRC history, previously dominated by European manufacturers, is that it was the first time a Japanese car manufacturer entered the WRC with an AWD turbocharged car, took trophies and won the titles.
I've always preferred the ST205 but a Carlos Sainz GT4 wouldn't be kicked out of bed.

The subsequent Japanese cars such as Impreza and Lancer were also successful and yet not looked at anything like as fondly as the aforementioned European contemporaries.

I think there's real value on offer in the Japanese cars. Ignore the gash interiors and enjoy the turbo-nuttery.

ETA.



Oooof!


Edited by ferrisbueller on Friday 17th June 21:09

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

202 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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ferris - yesthumbup

ferrisbueller

29,362 posts

228 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Yours for 1/5 of the price of an Integrale.

ST205 GT4 WRC


L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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ferrisbueller said:
Yours for 1/5 of the price of an Integrale.

ST205 GT4 WRC

I don't necessarily want to buy it but that (and the red Impreza) is/are rather cool

Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

202 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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L100NYY said:
I don't necessarily want to buy it but that (and the red Impreza) is/are rather cool
Same. I have to say that they appeal more than the current crop of AWD hatches, and not just for a smaller sticker price on previously cherished homologation specials. Like the5 cylinder warble of the RS3 but that's about it!


wst

3,494 posts

162 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/s...



This gets my vote for "Group A rally rep". Lighter (by about 50kg - down to sub-1200kg), it has that nifty roof intake for keeping dust out of the cabin when going down gravel roads at 100mph, water spray to cool the intercooler...

ferrisbueller

29,362 posts

228 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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That ST205 has anti lag.......

MattOz

3,914 posts

265 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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My 335i has left the building. It was a brilliant car and I'll miss it, but it was the right time for me to move it on. Anyway, another PH'er is now enjoying the car, which is great.

I've not decided on what I want next, so in the meantime I've bought an old E91 330i to smoke about in. It's done 180k miles, but runs very nicely. Full BM history and a trip to Birds for a suspension refresh mean it's in pretty good health. When I get a chance to give it a wash, it'll be perfect! smile

L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Yum at the white Impreza.

And yum at anti lag.

MattOz

3,914 posts

265 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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L100NYY said:
Yum at the white Impreza.

And yum at anti lag.
I loved my old STI 5.


L100NYY

35,221 posts

244 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Mitsibushi Evo V or VI is on my list

Leins

9,485 posts

149 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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I've always quite liked the look of those Sunny GTi-Rs too, even with the standard 14"s. There's just something about that bonnet scoop!

Anyone know how they compare to an Escort Cossie?


Diesel Meister

2,044 posts

202 months

Friday 17th June 2016
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Only ever (briefly) tried a mate's imported Pulsar at uni. It was lightly modded and absolutely bloody rabid by comparison to my humble golf. Gripped and went like the proverbial and was nice other than the bin-lid back box trying to tear the atmosphere at a hint of boost hehe

Seem to remember them being well regarded to drive if an acquired taste aesthetically. Like most such cars, could e a more expensive to run than many owners were prepared for too (mate ended up in a bimmer next!).
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