RE: Lotus Exige S Automatic: Review

RE: Lotus Exige S Automatic: Review

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braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I have to say this Exige looks bloody good in these photos. lick

sad61t

1,100 posts

211 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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daytona365 said:
Surely an automatic would always be in the wrong ratio to negotiate corners ? Or am I 40 years behind auto evolution ?!
Depends how you drive it. On my MINI, if I slow gently and then hoof it into a sharp corner (say a junction) then the auto is almost certainly in too high a gear and there's a horrid mid-corner gear change.

The trick is to get to know the gear box and balance the throttle to give the shift mechanism a hint about your next move. For example, I can pretty much time my upshifts through throttle modulation alone (a slight lift is sufficient).

Downshifts take a little longer - there's a shift point at just under 30mph, so I might plan to brake to 25 instead of 30 into the corner thus getting the gearbox to be in a lower gear. Giving more than a certain pressure on the throttle pedal through the corner ensures it stays in that lower gear as I drive through and out.

It took my a few thousand miles to adapt, but I wouldn't go back to a manual box (unless I was rich enough to take classic Ferraris on a track day).

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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"Things ain't what they used to be is a rose tinted refrain we're often guilty of here on PH"

Car forums do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of whinging, pedantry and proclamations that change is failure. grumpy

And yet change is... everywhere.


anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I am pretty impressed that an off the shelf auto transmission usually fitted to a camry car out shift the manual. It wasn't very long ago that automatics heavily blunted performance.

Sampaio

377 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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unsprung said:
"Things ain't what they used to be is a rose tinted refrain we're often guilty of here on PH"

Car forums do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of whinging, pedantry and proclamations that change is failure. grumpy

And yet change is... everywhere.
This isn't change, this is an option, you can still buy the manual.

The only reason why they're doing it is Asian Money, not because "change is better".


unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Sampaio said:
unsprung said:
"Things ain't what they used to be is a rose tinted refrain we're often guilty of here on PH"

Car forums do seem to attract a disproportionate amount of whinging, pedantry and proclamations that change is failure. grumpy

And yet change is... everywhere.
This isn't change, this is an option, you can still buy the manual.
Even better: change that supplements rather than supplants. I believe that this is the type of change that nearly everybody can live with.




Oddball RS

1,757 posts

219 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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tram50 said:
I did read in a previous article that the shift time was 240ms. My Clio 200 EDC claims to do it in 150ms and I tend to believe the times now having seen the video. There is a noticeable delay between pulling the paddle and hearing the shift.
In milliseconds? I wish they wouldn't keep circulating these porkies, I would stay that is slightly slower than the E Class I used to have.

exgtt

2,067 posts

213 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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If it gets people who can only drive autos into an Exige i'm all for it.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Oddball RS said:
I see it responds promptly to the paddle movements..................
That's by design. It means you can have a small sandwich and a nap between gear changes.

dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Twoshoe said:
Snoggledog said:
Isn't the copy ever read before being published?

article said:
Given the cars the 3.5 V6 is used in by Toyota....
Why, what's wrong with it?
That's how you may speak, it's not how you should write.

In fact, look at the whole sentence - it's totally devoid of punctuation (take a deep breath):

Given the cars the 3.5 V6 is used in by Toyota it's fortunate the Exige is available with an Aisin six-speed slusher and not the CVT many Japanese brands seem to favour in overseas markets.

Axionknight

8,505 posts

136 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Fair play to Lotus, if there is a willing market then go for it - anything to help the brand can only be a good thing in what have been trying times for them.

I'd take the manual though, if I were to buy such a motor.

CheesyFootballs

14,703 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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At least it'd give a little more leg room over the manual.


thespannerman

234 posts

124 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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If it helps them with sales it can't be all bad right?

At the end of the day I'd still only buy one with a full set of pedals...

MrTappets

881 posts

192 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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Seems like a hardcore sports car aimed at people who don't like driving. Makes no sense to me, but I guess the international market is a strange beast.

redroadster

1,746 posts

233 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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This or the new cayman gt3 ? hmm........... think I,d have porche.

otolith

56,206 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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I'd have the Exige - with a manual gearbox. Hell, I'd have it over a 911 GT3, even if it wasn't twice the price.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

235 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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redroadster said:
This or the new cayman gt3 ? hmm........... think I,d have porche.
Is there a Cayman GT3? I must have missed it. The Exige Cup is a tough rival for the Porsche.

Jellinek

274 posts

276 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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A great deal of rhetoric has been forthcoming of late from the new CEO expounding the importance of launching a product on time. Being a Marketing man and allegedly a fan Lotus, he should have been acutely aware of the dangers of bringing an under-developed product to market.
Lotus' future can only be secured with an Engineering led recovery. To sack a bundle of your engineering staff (and have talented staff get to the point of walking out), then demand a slush box to compete with PDK and to be delivered in a ridiculously short lead-time indicates a failure of policy, not of the engineers.
Perhaps it would have been more appropriate if the gearbox had 6 reverse gears and one forward.....

Sampaio

377 posts

139 months

Thursday 5th February 2015
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dandarez said:
Twoshoe said:
Snoggledog said:
Isn't the copy ever read before being published?

article said:
Given the cars the 3.5 V6 is used in by Toyota....
Why, what's wrong with it?
That's how you may speak, it's not how you should write.

In fact, look at the whole sentence - it's totally devoid of punctuation (take a deep breath):

Given the cars the 3.5 V6 is used in by Toyota it's fortunate the Exige is available with an Aisin six-speed slusher and not the CVT many Japanese brands seem to favour in overseas markets.
Still can't understand what on earth they were trying to say :P

sooopra

1 posts

111 months

Friday 6th February 2015
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There's no off-the-shelf dual-clutch transmission that'd fit a big transverse V6 like the Toyota unit.

The first dual clutch transmission used in a production car was mated to a transverse 3.2 V6.. I'm sure Lotus
could've bought something suitable from LuK or IAV.