RE: Daihatsu Charade GTti: Spotted

RE: Daihatsu Charade GTti: Spotted

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Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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cheddar said:
The bike mobs are knocking out a reliable 180bhp from one litre without turbo's so I doubt Ford's little motor is that stressed.
Quite.

smithyithy

7,246 posts

118 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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Weren't the engines semi-forged internally? So one could likely squeeze more power out of the engine with a some cheap mods and a turn-up of the boost.

I've always liked these, I eyed one up a few years ago, it was only a grand but needed serious cosmetic work, likely a bare shell respray.

Money-no-object, my garage would be filed with little gems like this.

grumpy52

5,584 posts

166 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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We had one as a loan car in the garage I worked in , customers would look a bit disappointed when confronted with it but usually had a grin on their faces when they brought it back . Fun to drive , was written off by one of the idiot young mechanics who thought he was the next WRC champ but had the reactions of a sedated sloth.

Sloppy

609 posts

213 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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My father purchased this particular Charade brand new, we went to the factory in Belgium to collect it. We sold it in 2003 for £3000 to a man in the UK, he then sold it for £4500 18 months ago, the new owner sold it four months ago for £4000, I know because I almost purchased it from the seller, to be honest I wish I had but at the time I didn't have £4k immediately available to me. At £9k there is no way I can buy her back.

The car is mint, my father looked after her incredibly well.




Dave Hedgehog

14,555 posts

204 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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if I had 150 mill in the bank £900 would still be too much for this car, 9k is just fantasy

turbobungle

574 posts

224 months

Wednesday 8th April 2015
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smithyithy said:
Weren't the engines semi-forged internally? So one could likely squeeze more power out of the engine with a some cheap mods and a turn-up of the boost.

I've always liked these, I eyed one up a few years ago, it was only a grand but needed serious cosmetic work, likely a bare shell respray.

Money-no-object, my garage would be filed with little gems like this.
Don't know about the semi-forged internals but I know the big end bearings were a weak point, I done them once, then had to import a short block and it happened again. Admittedly, at that stage of my driving career, the throttle pedal was more like an on/off switch! ;-)

jamespink

1,218 posts

204 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Had one of these in Grey when it was a few years old at £1500! Let me see, M3, M5, MR2, CelicaGT, Saab Turbo, almost any fast car for 9k... or a Charade... Mmmmm.

Aphex

2,160 posts

200 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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Fond memories of cornwall in 2005 of 'My 1 litre just beat ya!'

griffin dai

3,201 posts

149 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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grumpy52 said:
We had one as a loan car in the garage I worked in , customers would look a bit disappointed when confronted with it but usually had a grin on their faces when they brought it back . Fun to drive , was written off by one of the idiot young mechanics who thought he was the next WRC champ but had the reactions of a sedated sloth.
Mine got written off aswel by the next owner frown

Gutted as I wanted to buy it back, I swapped it for a renault 19 16v exec and it wasnt any near as much fun, fair bit slower too up to a ton!!

£9k though....nah.

three18ci

6 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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The most insane japanese pocket rocket of all time has to be the
Nissan Super March Turbo. (It even has the name for it!!!)

110 horsepower, 0.93 liter twincharged engine. 770kg

The supercharger gives 10 psi of boost up to about 4000 rpm, then the
turbo kicks in via a magnetic clutch, raising boost up to 14 psi with a
6500 rpm redline!

It also came with a car key that was a cat. A cat named after a sumo wrestler.

(All info courtesy of Jalopnik.com)

tali1

5,266 posts

201 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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The sequel 1.6 GTi thingy was like most hot hatch sequels dull and booring by comparison.

RumbleOfThunder said:
Hate to be a dick but it's worth mentioning the 1.0 Ecoboost now makes 140bhp in the Fiesta "Black" and "Red" editions. getmecoat
About 28YEARS difference

RumbleOfThunder

3,557 posts

203 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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tali1 said:
The sequel 1.6 GTi thingy was like most hot hatch sequels dull and booring by comparison.

RumbleOfThunder said:
Hate to be a dick but it's worth mentioning the 1.0 Ecoboost now makes 140bhp in the Fiesta "Black" and "Red" editions. getmecoat
About 28YEARS difference
Simmer down, Daihatsu lad. The article made reference to the 100hp Ecoboost so just thought it was worth mentioning 140hp version.

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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three18ci said:
The most insane japanese pocket rocket of all time has to be the
Nissan Super March Turbo. (It even has the name for it!!!)

110 horsepower, 0.93 liter twincharged engine. 770kg

The supercharger gives 10 psi of boost up to about 4000 rpm, then the
turbo kicks in via a magnetic clutch, raising boost up to 14 psi with a
6500 rpm redline!

It also came with a car key that was a cat. A cat named after a sumo wrestler.

(All info courtesy of Jalopnik.com)
Read about these but yet to see one either in the flesh or for sale in the uk.

lord trumpton

7,396 posts

126 months

Thursday 9th April 2015
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cheddar said:
Howard- said:
r11co said:
For about 30,000 miles if you are lucky....
It's the same as a 280bhp turbocharged 2.0 engine. Or a 250bhp turbocharged 2.0 if compared to the 125bhp Ecoboost. Hardly racing engine-esque groundbreaking levels of specific output. I dare say the engine has been designed to be a tough little unit, but time will ultimately tell.
The bike mobs are knocking out a reliable 180bhp from one litre without turbo's so I doubt Ford's little motor is that stressed.
Yeah but the bike engines make their power with really high rpm and little torque - plus not much weight to pull around.

Stuffing compressed air into small cylinders and making big explosions is a little different plus they are having to carry a lot more weight with a car body bolted over them.

three18ci

6 posts

161 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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irish boy said:
Read about these but yet to see one either in the flesh or for sale in the uk.
A couple of years ago, there was a guy selling one in Eire. Never heard of anyone belore or since. Definately a lottery win car for me, just for the laugh i'd park it next to all the astons and bentleys.

vidfletch

39 posts

161 months

Friday 10th April 2015
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I had four of these back in the 90's. They shift. Of the other common hot hatches of the day I'd say only the Renault 5 GT Turbo and the Astra GTE 16v were significantly faster. In my time I had various drivers trying to pull away from me in Golfs, Escorts, Peugeots etc, they weren't as fast. I remember a trip from London to Scotland going up the A1 late at night. Guy in a Toyota Supra Turbo, the late 80's fat one, couldn't pull away unless we'd gone at insane speeds. Travelled in convoy for a good 50/60 miles and he gave me a big thumbs up when he left the motorway. Pre speed camera days and in my youth! Wouldn't dare do it now. The handling was alright certainly nothing brilliant. I'd have another if I had the space for a third car but not at that price even in right hand drive.